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Will Imran's campaign against drones include getting Bhogle and Healy off the airwaves?
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Taliban shoot a 14 year old girl in the head for wanting to go to school
Yup, these are exactly the type of people that the government of Pakistan should be making "peace" deals with. If only we left them alone in the tribal areas, they'd cause no trouble or problems at all! Life would just be strawberries and peaches for those people that live under their control.
I haven't been very hooked on this thread, but who is suggesting that?
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yep......good point NP.....
Some people think that the only solution to a problem is to bomb/shoot anybody that disagrees with them. There can be no other solution you see
Tbf, they are not only disagreeing but harassing and shooting innocent people who don't agree with their stupid outlook on society.
Which is what our stupid govt is doing too. Doing exactly the same thing that the taliban are doing.
Military solution is the last solution not the only solution.
And I don't quite understand what the problems is with taking Imran's solution? Why not use the tribal people to fight the taliban and keep them at bay? I haven't heard one good argument against this strategy?
Imran Khan for one. He opposes any military action in the tribal areas. He wants to negotiate a peace deal there. A peace deal for what? To give them autonomy over the tribal areas to do as they please? They want to impose Taliban rule there. We all know what that entails. It means a barbaric and medieval system of Wahabi style Islam that treats women like property, persecutes all minorities, and forces everyone to comply with their vision of what life should be like. Why should the government of Pakistan negotiate a deal with rebels? Remember, they are killing and imposing terror on the people and government of Pakistan. So is it better to have “peace” with these monsters or fight and gain back control of our country?
No one should be given autonomy but it's disgusting that the tribals are being killed from drone attacks. Fusion, do you think they love the rest of Pakistan as a result? Or that they will forget what the rest of the country is allowing? These are the people who swore to the British that they will protect their borders during the British Raj and they kept their promise, and they won't forget this as well.
I am not surprised that the Talibs are bombing our markets. An eye for an eye.
Last edited by Agent Nationaux; 10-10-2012 at 02:12 PM.
An eye for an eye? What do the drone attacks have ANYTHING to do with the Taliban shooting a 14 year old girl? An eye for an eye would mean they attack the Americans, not a teenage girl. There is NO justification for their atrocities against innocent people. NONE. It's not America's fault that these people have such warped and sick mentality. Not allowing girls to attend school and generally treating them like cattle, killing minorities, and forcing people to live by their rules has nothing to do with the drones. That's who they are. The drones didn’t create that ideology.
What Imran and others seem to be missing is that the Pakistani government/military is not invading a foreign land here. The government is enforcing its wit on its own sovereign land. The Taliban don't get to have their own autonomous region outside of Pakistan's control just because they want to. This is Pakistani land. Either they live according to the rules of Pakistan's constitution, or they should be forced to. Why is that even a question to debate? Either you have control of your territory as a nation or you are a failed state. If you are a failed state, then you have no cause to protest when other countries take violent action against your people to protect their interest.
They are committing atrocities, but my question wasn't whether it's justified or not, I asked if you are surprised that they are retaliating by attacking Pakistan. For example they have attacked military compounds 3 times now.
And I was never debating about them being given their own land. I don't care what happens to the Taliban, what I am talking about is the Tribals, who did not kill any girl. You are confusing the Tribals with the Talibs,
The Tribals, haven't killed anyone, nor have they done anything against the constitution. They are Pakistanis, yet we allow them to be droned in order to get the Talibs. I don't think the collateral damage is worth it. Nor does Imran.
Where is the Taliban base? The tribal areas. Who are we fighting in the tribal areas? The Taliban. So if we make “peace” in the tribal areas, who are we making peace with? The Taliban!! I don’t care if it’s the Taliban or my next door Uncle Khan that’s fighting the Pakistani government. If they are fighting against the State, they need to be defeated. They don’t get to have their own land. They don’t get to impose their own will. They don’t get to shoot 14 year old girls. Simple as.
And am I surprised that they are attacking Pakistan? Actually I’m not. I expect monsters to do monstrous things like bomb innocent civilians. And please don’t try to paint their attacks as merely against the Pakistani military. They are killing thousands of civilians and you know it. So am I surprised? No. Am I horrified by their barbarism? YES! Aren’t you?
The Tribals also live in those areas.
America's deadly double tap drone attacks are 'killing 49 people for every known terrorist in Pakistan' | Mail Online
New Stanford/NYU study documents the civilian terror from Obama's drones | Glenn Greenwald | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk
Do you like those odds Fusion, I certainly don't.
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