Love the picture of the hippies. So jealous of them, I'd have absolutely loved to have gone to Pakistan/Afghanistan in the 60s.
Will Imran's campaign against drones include getting Bhogle and Healy off the airwaves?
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#408. Sixty three not out forever.
And smalishah's avatar is the most classy one by far Jan certainly echoes the sentiments of CW
Yeah we don't crap in the first world; most of us would actually have no idea what that was emanating from Ajmal's backside. Why isn't it roses and rainbows like what happens here? PEWS's retort to Ganeshran on Daemon's picture depicting Ajmal's excreta
Taliban shoot a 14 year old girl in the head for wanting to go to school
Yup, these are exactly the type of people that the government of Pakistan should be making "peace" deals with. If only we left them alone in the tribal areas, they'd cause no trouble or problems at all! Life would just be strawberries and peaches for those people that live under their control.
I haven't been very hooked on this thread, but who is suggesting that?
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yep......good point NP.....
Some people think that the only solution to a problem is to bomb/shoot anybody that disagrees with them. There can be no other solution you see
Tbf, they are not only disagreeing but harassing and shooting innocent people who don't agree with their stupid outlook on society.
Military solution is the last solution not the only solution.
And I don't quite understand what the problems is with taking Imran's solution? Why not use the tribal people to fight the taliban and keep them at bay? I haven't heard one good argument against this strategy?
No one should be given autonomy but it's disgusting that the tribals are being killed from drone attacks. Fusion, do you think they love the rest of Pakistan as a result? Or that they will forget what the rest of the country is allowing? These are the people who swore to the British that they will protect their borders during the British Raj and they kept their promise, and they won't forget this as well.
I am not surprised that the Talibs are bombing our markets. An eye for an eye.
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What Imran and others seem to be missing is that the Pakistani government/military is not invading a foreign land here. The government is enforcing its wit on its own sovereign land. The Taliban don't get to have their own autonomous region outside of Pakistan's control just because they want to. This is Pakistani land. Either they live according to the rules of Pakistan's constitution, or they should be forced to. Why is that even a question to debate? Either you have control of your territory as a nation or you are a failed state. If you are a failed state, then you have no cause to protest when other countries take violent action against your people to protect their interest.
They are committing atrocities, but my question wasn't whether it's justified or not, I asked if you are surprised that they are retaliating by attacking Pakistan. For example they have attacked military compounds 3 times now.
And I was never debating about them being given their own land. I don't care what happens to the Taliban, what I am talking about is the Tribals, who did not kill any girl. You are confusing the Tribals with the Talibs,
The Tribals, haven't killed anyone, nor have they done anything against the constitution. They are Pakistanis, yet we allow them to be droned in order to get the Talibs. I don't think the collateral damage is worth it. Nor does Imran.
Where is the Taliban base? The tribal areas. Who are we fighting in the tribal areas? The Taliban. So if we make ďpeaceĒ in the tribal areas, who are we making peace with? The Taliban!! I donít care if itís the Taliban or my next door Uncle Khan thatís fighting the Pakistani government. If they are fighting against the State, they need to be defeated. They donít get to have their own land. They donít get to impose their own will. They donít get to shoot 14 year old girls. Simple as.
And am I surprised that they are attacking Pakistan? Actually Iím not. I expect monsters to do monstrous things like bomb innocent civilians. And please donít try to paint their attacks as merely against the Pakistani military. They are killing thousands of civilians and you know it. So am I surprised? No. Am I horrified by their barbarism? YES! Arenít you?
The Tribals also live in those areas.
America's deadly double tap drone attacks are 'killing 49 people for every known terrorist in Pakistan' | Mail Online
New Stanford/NYU study documents the civilian terror from Obama's drones | Glenn Greenwald | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk
Do you like those odds Fusion, I certainly don't.
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