The Official Pakistan Politics thread - Page 5

salman85 · 31-10-2011, 10:48 AM

A nice writeup for haters out there.

Why is it wrong to praise Imran Khan? | Blog | DAWN.COM

smalishah84 · 31-10-2011, 11:28 AM

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Great article about the Jalsa.

I sure like your sig. I hope it comes true Agent. IA

Agent Nationaux · 31-10-2011, 11:39 AM

Thanks Smali.

G.I.Joe · 31-10-2011, 12:10 PM

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The Taliban never intended to conquer the world. You have to understand their mentality. They only wanted a better Afghanistan free from drugs, prostitution etc. That's why they stood up (a talib is a student). Before 9/11 the US never cared for the Taliban because they were harmless. The US only came after Al Qaida. The Taliban even offered to hand over Bin Laden, which the US refused because they wanted the country. Now the Taliban are fighting for their homeland (can you really blame them for that).

And once the US leaves, the Talibs will come back into power because the Afghan government is weak and is mainly Tajik. Most of the population of Afghanistan is Pushtun and so are the Talibs. Do you really think the majority Pushtuns will support the Tajik government once US leaves. Pushtuns always support their tribe first (that's their mentality).

Once the US leaves, Pakistan will have a chance to sort itself out. At the moment the military is using this to their advantage by playing their double game with the US and Pakistani people. They are diverting the education, health and other budgets to themselves and also taking money from the US. This is what Imran is trying to sort out. That is why he wants the US gone, so that Pakistan has a chance to manage its problems. But I don't know how he will manage the ISI, however has Zardari managed it, or did Sharif manage it. We aren't voting for Imran to manage the military, we are voting for him because he is better than the rest and he will improve the situation in Pakistan.

Doesn't the "etc" include music, photographs, satellite television, Buddha statues, cinema, computers, toys? Extremely disingenuous to use the innocuous abbreviation there. They were also okay with the opium trade because they didn't care if the westerners partook of it. Of course, the resultant income and taxes were incidental benefits.

Agent Nationaux · 31-10-2011, 12:35 PM

The Taliban are no more Wahabists than the Saudis. And it's also part of their culture. They are a backwards people, but an invasion for that reason is ridiculous. Let them operate how they have operated for the last few centuries.

The Taliban have always been against the drug trade in their country. It's the Afghan warlords who have promoted it and benefited from it.

Agent Nationaux · 31-10-2011, 12:36 PM

Kids in Afghanistan don't get toys, they are presented with guns. That's how they have always operated.

G.I.Joe · 31-10-2011, 12:39 PM

It wasn't meant as a reason for invading them, but rather to point out that they weren't all sugar and spice and babies dipped in honey.

Agent Nationaux · 31-10-2011, 12:41 PM

Yeah, but nobody is sugar and spice and all things nice.

Agent Nationaux · 31-10-2011, 12:42 PM

Unless you are Daemon.

Cevno · 31-10-2011, 12:53 PM

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Unless you are Daemon.

Will see if you still say that, when he makes you his next meal.

Cevno · 31-10-2011, 12:57 PM

Btw, will respond to some points that have been made which i disagree with in this thread later. A few different issues also getting mixed up.

Ftr, never been opposed to Imran and he would certainly bring some hope and probably be better than the rest who are useless, but don't think some of his proposed policies are practical or in some cases ideal for the region as a whole. West or no West doesn't matter in many of them.

smalishah84 · 31-10-2011, 10:09 PM

the thing is that current policies have been making the situation from bad to worse for the last 10 years.....so why not change??

smalishah84 · 31-10-2011, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Cevno

Btw, will respond to some points that have been made which i disagree with in this thread later. A few different issues also getting mixed up.

Ftr, never been opposed to Imran and he would certainly bring some hope and probably be better than the rest who are useless, but don't think some of his proposed policies are practical or in some cases ideal for the region as a whole. West or no West doesn't matter in many of them.

Not sure what you mean. Would be good if you elaborate

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Will see if you still say that, when he makes you his next meal.

Fusion · 01-11-2011, 12:34 PM

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Yeah.

BTW Fusion is missing from this thread

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lol.....I thought of posting this earlier but I knew that Fusion will jump in at some point.

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I've been busy with work the past few days and haven't had a chance to reply and rain down the Imran Khan love parade. Don't worry, I have PLENTY to say on why Imran is not the messiah that he's made out to be. I'll write up a response in the next day or so. I'm sure you all will be waiting with bated breath.

smalishah84 · 01-11-2011, 12:55 PM

we are all waiting for the venom to start pouring

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31-10-2011, 10:48 AM	#61 (permalink)
salman85 State Captain Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Lahore,Pakistan Posts: 1,926	A nice writeup for haters out there. Why is it wrong to praise Imran Khan? \| Blog \| DAWN.COM

31-10-2011, 12:35 PM	#65 (permalink)
Agent Nationaux Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: UK Posts: 8,269	The Taliban are no more Wahabists than the Saudis. And it's also part of their culture. They are a backwards people, but an invasion for that reason is ridiculous. Let them operate how they have operated for the last few centuries. The Taliban have always been against the drug trade in their country. It's the Afghan warlords who have promoted it and benefited from it.

31-10-2011, 12:36 PM	#66 (permalink)
Agent Nationaux Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: UK Posts: 8,269	Kids in Afghanistan don't get toys, they are presented with guns. That's how they have always operated.

31-10-2011, 12:39 PM	#67 (permalink)
G.I.Joe International Coach Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: India Posts: 10,223	It wasn't meant as a reason for invading them, but rather to point out that they weren't all sugar and spice and babies dipped in honey.

31-10-2011, 12:41 PM	#68 (permalink)
Agent Nationaux Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: UK Posts: 8,269	Yeah, but nobody is sugar and spice and all things nice.

31-10-2011, 12:42 PM	#69 (permalink)
Agent Nationaux Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: UK Posts: 8,269	Unless you are Daemon.

31-10-2011, 12:57 PM	#71 (permalink)
Cevno International Coach Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: India Posts: 14,933	Btw, will respond to some points that have been made which i disagree with in this thread later. A few different issues also getting mixed up. Ftr, never been opposed to Imran and he would certainly bring some hope and probably be better than the rest who are useless, but don't think some of his proposed policies are practical or in some cases ideal for the region as a whole. West or no West doesn't matter in many of them.

31-10-2011, 10:09 PM	#72 (permalink)
smalishah84 Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: dxb Posts: 18,860	the thing is that current policies have been making the situation from bad to worse for the last 10 years.....so why not change??

01-11-2011, 12:55 PM	#75 (permalink)
smalishah84 Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: dxb Posts: 18,860	we are all waiting for the venom to start pouring

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