View Poll Results: Do you support gay marriage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by iamdavid View Post
    Should've given alot more consideration to how I worded that, was not meaning to infer that being raised by a single parent necessarily hinders psychological development. Just using the single parent scenario for the sake of comparison as it's another scenario which may not be ideal from a child-raising point of view, and research may well suggest that being raised by gays presents no more of an issue than the single parent scenario which is very common and has widespread acceptance. But I still feel it (children being raised by same-sex couples) is something which should be looked at in more detail.
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    More research is always good but if you're going to deny some kid a loving home and keep him in an orphanage instead, it seems to me that the onus should be on the people who think it's dangerous, especially as what literature there is, shows pretty quickly that no harm is done to the child.

    I can't believe some people would rather have kids grow up 'in the system' than in a loving home with parents who have a stable income and can provide for that child. It just boggles the mind, personally.

    As I posted above - the research is already there. If you have any evidence to the contrary, please present it. In the meantime, let children find loving homes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iamdavid View Post
    Should've given alot more consideration to how I worded that, was not meaning to infer that being raised by a single parent necessarily hinders psychological development. Just using the single parent scenario for the sake of comparison as it's another scenario which may not be ideal from a child-raising point of view, and research may well suggest that being raised by gays presents no more of an issue than the single parent scenario which is very common and has widespread acceptance. But I still feel it (children being raised by same-sex couples) is something which should be looked at in more detail.
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    I'm happy to view a gay marriage, although preferably it'd be a lesbian honeymoon that I'd be viewing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silentstriker View Post
    As I posted above - the research is already there. If you have any evidence to the contrary, please present it. In the meantime, let children find loving homes.
    This is such a **** and condescending post it's not funny.

    Psychological research of this nature is so subjective that there will never be a definitive answer either way (and iamdavid has never claimed for there to be), so don't act like it's the be all and end all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentstriker View Post
    More research is always good but if you're going to deny some kid a loving home and keep him in an orphanage instead, it seems to me that the onus should be on the people who think it's dangerous, especially as what literature there is, shows pretty quickly that no harm is done to the child.

    I can't believe some people would rather have kids grow up 'in the system' than in a loving home with parents who have a stable income and can provide for that child. It just boggles the mind, personally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uppercut View Post
    I think they ought to be able to adopt too. I very strongly disagree with them but that is not a reason to deny a child an otherwise loving home.

    Seriously, in most cases, orphanages and such are terrible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benchmark00 View Post
    This is such a **** and condescending post it's not funny.

    Psychological research of this nature is so subjective that there will never be a definitive answer either way (and iamdavid has never claimed for there to be), so don't act like it's the be all and end all.
    If you notice, my first sentence was that more research is always good. I'm just saying that if you're going to make a claim that some people are unfit to be parents, you should have some good evidence because you are denying a kid so many opportunities by not giving him a home.

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    Haha, I almost didn't do it. And when I did, I had to go and take a shower. Twice. I sure hope I don't have to do it again.

    To me, the only acceptance reasons for letting a child stay in an orphanage or whatever is if the adoptive parents have a history of felonies of like child abuse, other physical or psychological handicap that may prevent them raising a kid, or it's obvious that they can't afford to raise the kid. Or something else obvious like that.

    That's pretty much it. Whether you like it or not, thinking homosexuality is wrong is not a cultish or a fringe belief, and I would absolutely be against someone being denied an adoption because of their obvious religious convictions.

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    I do find tests like that annoying though, its an individual thing whether someone's fit for parenting and to me, sexuality is irrelevant.

    Edit: was about to add 'when compared to other factors' but I wouldn't really like to deny anyone a child if they genuinely want to look after them.
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    An interesting little example of why the wording makes a difference today (I thought...). We got our census form, and on it you declare your relationship to other people in your house - you can be 'married', 'in a same-sex civil partnership' or 'partner'. So straight and gay people who are married/civil partnered are having to declare their sexuality on the census, whereas I, as I am unmarried/'living in sin', do not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silentstriker View Post
    I think they ought to be able to adopt too. I very strongly disagree with them but that is not a reason to deny a child an otherwise loving home.

    Seriously, in most cases, orphanages and such are terrible.
    Yeah, I completely agree.

    Couldn't help but love the fact that our courts made that ruling just a little bit, though. Thinking homosexuality is evil doesn't make you less fit to raise a child than an orphanage but it's nice that the legal system looks upon such views with such disdain.

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