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3 | 3.95% |
| Gay? Isn't that a synonym for happy? |
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Now, I've heard an argument that says the state should not be in the business of giving out marriage licences at all - they should all be civil unions and if your local church is willing to 'marry' you (straight or gay), then you yourself can call it whatever you want. Legally, it's just a civil union.
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Let me ask it this way, if the government tomorrow said if an interracial couple are to marry, we can no longer allow it to be called marriage, but they still have the same rights. Would you support it? If not, why the double standard? |
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Yup. That related to meaning. Obviously meaning here is different if you're strongly against one but for the other. If they meant the same, you could call it either and be completely OK with that.
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Historical definition is not, in my view, an acceptable reason to continue discrimination. Historically, interracial couples couldn't marry and you were changing the 'historical' definition of marriage when you started allowing it. Now if you don't think straight marriages and gay marriages are the same, fine. But I'm just pointing out that by creating the difference in name, you are also creating a difference in meaning, and by extension, treating them differently in some way. You can't say they're the 'same' and then call it by different names. Last edited by silentstriker; 05-03-2011 at 09:19 AM. |
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No, I'm asking a different question. As it stands there's a legal benefit to being married, and the civil partnership benefits are almost identical. But I'm asking why the legal benefit to being married is even there. How does that help society?
Or in relation to gay marriage, why don't we just let people box themselves into whichever social structures they like, and call their relationships and ceremonies whatever they like, without the state getting involved? It seems really odd to me that it's the job of the state to define what does and what doesn't constitute marriage. Last edited by Uppercut; 05-03-2011 at 09:24 AM. |
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There is in terms of inheritance and the like, superannuation etc.
Am for it. Why should gay people get to be happy when they should have the right to be miserable like the rest of us.
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