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H Rutherford, T Latham, N Broom, M Bracewell, D Brownlie, BJ Watling, D de Boorder+, M Henry, B Wheeler, H Bennett, A Milne
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Phillip Hughes 1988-2014
RIP Craigos. A true CW legend. You will be missed.
Then there's more obscure things like sodomy laws and the age of consent being 18 rather than 16.
Moving out of home due to homophobia isn't a legitimate psychological reason for claiming independence for Youth Allowance.
Putting aside the legal recognition and legislated discrimination, I'm sure there are a lot of issues that exist due to the fact that we still live in a heteronormative society. Even those that are serious about ending discrimination often consider people who identify as LGBTI as "others"
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Stedders' Supported XI
Tamim Iqbal, DA Warner, CA Lynn, *MEK Hussey, Shakib Al Hasan, JP Faulkner, +Mushfiqur Rahim, AC Agar, Mashrafe Mortaza, Taskin Ahmed, JP Behrendorff.
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The whole issue of "gay rights" is a troublesome matter for me. Obviously nobody should be made to suffer or be victimised because of their sexuality. But it strikes me that some campaigners take this sort of thing to an extreme where they are almost suggesting that homosexual people should have some sort of positive rights conferred on them, which strikes me as being both wrong and stupid. As Duffer has previously said, I don't think this sort of thing is really an issue for anyone who is not gay/not a raging homophobe. Am pretty glad I'm no longer living with my rabidly Lid Dem, LGBT, Amnesty International. Human Rights activist housemate though, as he is probably the biggest **** I have ever met in my life, just on an unrelated note.
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In another sense, groups with special needs or vulnerabilities (and due to the level of prejudice that exists i'd argue LGBTs fall in this category), maybe they need more legal protections than the norm.
However, giving minority groups extra rights that normal people would not have is abhorent however I look at it. It creates barriers between groups of society, it creates a "them and us" situation that the whole process is designed to avoid. This is a fundamentally bad thing.
TBH, the only negative I've seen from such processes isn't with what's given to special needs people (it's usually pretty minimal anyway) but when others just make **** up. As a Nunga man, I'm still waiting for the free 4WD's/interest free home loans I'm supposed to be entitled to. Once people who arc up are told what people actually receive/earn, there's rarely any dissent.
And certain people will always make **** up for any concession at all; my Dad used to get bollocked for receiving special treatment when he was given his Honorary White Person Card. Oh yeah, he was just getting loads of free stuff, the freeloader he was, like the opportunity to go to school and learn how to write, walk through a capital city freely, health care in line with white people, etc.
I don't believe in positive discrimination under many circumstances, fwiw. With regards to the gay community in the UK it's an entirely inappropriate measure.
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