LGBT Thread - Page 4

Ausage · 14-07-2010, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by duffer

My theory is, it seriously isn't that important to people unless they are gay themselves or are raging homophobes. Not sad at all, just not a big deal for most people.

I guess so. I just figured there would be some gay people on the site that might want to talk about issues they face.

Either way, CW is now out and proud.

Nnanden · 14-07-2010, 06:37 PM

I love homosexual people.

silentstriker · 14-07-2010, 06:38 PM

Hate the sin love the sinner, eh?

Good on you mate, and I think I know you well enough that you mean that. Many, sadly, don't.

nightprowler10 · 14-07-2010, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by PhoenixFire

Find overtly macho and hetero 'lads' just as annoying as overtly camp people tbh.

This, so much.

Smudge · 14-07-2010, 07:08 PM

No dramas/issues with LGBT people. They are who they are, and I don't think it makes them any less or any more of a person than Joe Punter (obviously).

What I dislike is insecure people like New Zealand MP Chris Carter instantly defaulting to the "they're picking on me because I'm gay" position whenever they're criticised when it's actually related to their own behaviour, and nothing to do with their sexuality.

Nnanden · 14-07-2010, 07:14 PM

Guess I should elaborate then.

I believe in what the Bible teaches, as it is God's word. Part of it explains how homosexuality is a sin, sin being things we do that are against God. It also explains, however, how all humans are sinful, myself most definitely included. So while I disagree with homosexuality, as I view it as a sin, it is the same as any other sin, that we all commit.

I have three really close friends who are gay. And I love them, they are great blokes. But I do detest their sinfulness, just as I detest my familiy's, my girlfriend's and my own.

EDIT: Not elaborating to be preachy, or because I want to lock horns. Just sharing what I believe.

Top_Cat · 14-07-2010, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Nnanden

all humans are sinful, myself most definitely included.

Oh yes.

cover drive man · 15-07-2010, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Nnanden

Guess I should elaborate then.

I believe in what the Bible teaches, as it is God's word. Part of it explains how homosexuality is a sin, sin being things we do that are against God. It also explains, however, how all humans are sinful, myself most definitely included. So while I disagree with homosexuality, as I view it as a sin, it is the same as any other sin, that we all commit.

I have three really close friends who are gay. And I love them, they are great blokes. But I do detest their sinfulness, just as I detest my familiy's, my girlfriend's and my own.

EDIT: Not elaborating to be preachy, or because I want to lock horns. Just sharing what I believe.

What do we think about homosexuality being used as an insult? The old "You're gay" there was also in my school "you Jew" Not to gays or Jewish people but to each other as insults.

Nnanden · 15-07-2010, 02:03 AM

It's not great.

Uppercut · 15-07-2010, 02:11 AM

Hey Nath, genuine question. Surely you don't take all of the bible at face value, because there's some pretty horrific stuff in there. Given that you ignore some parts, why are you inclined to believe the stuff about homosexual acts being wrong?

Spark · 15-07-2010, 02:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhoenixFire

Find overtly macho and hetero 'lads' just as annoying as overtly camp people tbh.

Agree with this so very much.

thierry henry · 15-07-2010, 02:43 AM

Reckon when our society *actually* matures, we'll get to a more advanced stage where these things can be properly discussed and we won't all feel a reactionary compulsion to sing the virtues of men butt-sex0ring each other or spending their life savings on a fake vag etc etc. The "Western World" is currently at a very juvenile stage where it feels it needs to reject its past by going way too far in the other direction.

I say this from my position as an analyst of sweeping societal trends who sits above you all casting judgement btw

ripper868 · 15-07-2010, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by thierry henry

I say this from my position as an analyst of sweeping societal trends who sits above you all casting judgement btw

While getting no action i might add

Agree with the sentiments of the 'lads' etc needing to prove how straight they are.

Mr Casson · 15-07-2010, 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by thierry henry

Reckon when our society *actually* matures, we'll get to a more advanced stage where these things can be properly discussed and we won't all feel a reactionary compulsion to sing the virtues of men butt-sex0ring each other or spending their life savings on a fake vag etc etc. The "Western World" is currently at a very juvenile stage where it feels it needs to reject its past by going way too far in the other direction.

I say this from my position as an analyst of sweeping societal trends who sits above you all casting judgement btw

The fact that I couldn't stifle a chortle at this proves we, or at least I, haven't reached that stage yet.

Uppercut · 15-07-2010, 03:08 AM

Nobody's sang anyone's virtues. The general consensus is that we don't care in the slightest what people do in the privacy of their own homes. We just don't give a flying ****. Why would we? It doesn't affect us even slightly.

If that principle is in place, I don't see what there is left to "discuss". "What's your opinion of gay people?" becomes as blunt a question as, "What's your opinion of people playing golf?"

14-07-2010, 06:37 PM	#47 (permalink)
Nnanden You'll Never Walk Alone Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: New South Wales Posts: 26,187	I love homosexual people. __________________ Jesus saves proudly supporting Liverpool FC

14-07-2010, 07:08 PM	#50 (permalink)
Smudge Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Wellywood Posts: 16,552	No dramas/issues with LGBT people. They are who they are, and I don't think it makes them any less or any more of a person than Joe Punter (obviously). What I dislike is insecure people like New Zealand MP Chris Carter instantly defaulting to the "they're picking on me because I'm gay" position whenever they're criticised when it's actually related to their own behaviour, and nothing to do with their sexuality. __________________ What do you mean?

14-07-2010, 07:14 PM	#51 (permalink)
Nnanden You'll Never Walk Alone Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: New South Wales Posts: 26,187	Guess I should elaborate then. I believe in what the Bible teaches, as it is God's word. Part of it explains how homosexuality is a sin, sin being things we do that are against God. It also explains, however, how all humans are sinful, myself most definitely included. So while I disagree with homosexuality, as I view it as a sin, it is the same as any other sin, that we all commit. I have three really close friends who are gay. And I love them, they are great blokes. But I do detest their sinfulness, just as I detest my familiy's, my girlfriend's and my own. EDIT: Not elaborating to be preachy, or because I want to lock horns. Just sharing what I believe. Last edited by Nnanden; 14-07-2010 at 07:30 PM.

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15-07-2010, 02:03 AM	#54 (permalink)
Nnanden You'll Never Walk Alone Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: New South Wales Posts: 26,187	It's not great.

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thierry henry International Captain Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 5,032	Reckon when our society actually matures, we'll get to a more advanced stage where these things can be properly discussed and we won't all feel a reactionary compulsion to sing the virtues of men butt-sex0ring each other or spending their life savings on a fake vag etc etc. The "Western World" is currently at a very juvenile stage where it feels it needs to reject its past by going way too far in the other direction. I say this from my position as an analyst of sweeping societal trends who sits above you all casting judgement btw

15-07-2010, 03:08 AM	#60 (permalink)
Uppercut Cricket Web: All-Time Legend Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Norn Iron Posts: 21,789	Nobody's sang anyone's virtues. The general consensus is that we don't care in the slightest what people do in the privacy of their own homes. We just don't give a flying ****. Why would we? It doesn't affect us even slightly. If that principle is in place, I don't see what there is left to "discuss". "What's your opinion of gay people?" becomes as blunt a question as, "What's your opinion of people playing golf?"

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