The American Politics thread

[Quaggas]

Bit of a false equivalency there. Romney is olympic level backflips while Obama is a decent amateur at best. Though I'm certainly not happy about his expansion of domestic spying, not closing guantanamo, etc. Unfortunately, that seems to be par for the course for every President as they enter the office - they want to leave the Presidency with more power than when they got in.

Haha, yes, though the last thing that springs to mind is "Obama amateur, Romney pro" when it comes to politics in general.

[Burgey]

What's the latest feeling int he US? Are they really stupid enough to gift back the White House to the mob which gave them the GFC in the first place?

[silentstriker]

Yes.

[Burgey]

Haha, then it's really just an accident of history that you became a Superpower, isn't it?

[silentstriker]

Haha. Well the conditions that made us a superpower were very libertarian tbf...not so good for the majority of population but good for industrial development.

In any case, some people think the way to fix the defecits and the debt is to have massive tax cuts (srsly). I don't think there's any reasonable argument you can make to that group.

[Spikey]

obama is now just totally trolling the 40yo or older, white male demographic

Obama spares many young illegal immigrants deportation | Reuters

[silentstriker]

Haha yea. Though I don't see Obama winning anymore. The economy won't be good enough.

[Anil]

Haha yea. Though I don't see Obama winning anymore. The economy won't be good enough.

yeah mitt romney will be the new potus...

[Fusion]

Haha yea. Though I don't see Obama winning anymore. The economy won't be good enough.

yeah mitt romney will be the new potus...

You guys are jumping the gun wayyyyy too early. It will be a close election, but it's still advantage Obama. We all know it's going to come down to select swing states like Ohio, Virginia, Pennsylvania, and Florida. Each of those States' economies are doing slightly better than the national average; hence Obama is less likely to be impacted by that issue in those States. The polls show that Obama still leads Romney in most of the swing states.

This is going to be a long, nasty, and competitive race. Neither party can feel confident about winning or losing at this stage.

[Flem274*]

You mean Romney and the religious extremists who make up the current Republican Party are actually a serious prospect?

America is becoming a parody of itself.

[Fusion]

You mean Romney and the religious extremists who make up the current Republican Party are actually a serious prospect?

America is becoming a parody of itself.

The rise of the right-wing is a world wide trend and not just limited to America. When the world economy is in a recession, and there are wars taking place all over the place, it's natural for the majority of people to turn towards a conservative approach for a solution.

[Flem274*]

The Democrats are already a right wing party though.

The Republicans in the UK, Aus, NZ, Canada etc would get 2% of the vote and a pat on the head.

[Jono]

The rise of the right-wing is a world wide trend and not just limited to America. When the world economy is in a recession, and there are wars taking place all over the place, it's natural for the majority of people to turn towards a conservative approach for a solution.

Except:

[Burgey]

The rise of the right-wing is a world wide trend and not just limited to America. When the world economy is in a recession, and there are wars taking place all over the place, it's natural for the majority of people to turn towards a conservative approach for a solution.

Where are the wars taking place everywhere? Is the current time more martial than most others since WW2, for example?

[Fusion]

Except:

IMO there is a definite shift towards the right world-wide. It may not be as extreme as the right-wing Republican party of the States, but nevertheless there is a rightward trend. Consider:

-France experienced a definite rightward shift in the last decade. Even Sarkozy's UMP is a center-right party.
-The center-right CDU/CSU won in Germany.
-The Torries won the most seats in the 2010 UK general elections.
-The center-right New Democracy party just won the Greece elections.
-Benjamin Neanyahu's right-wing Likud party is in control of Israel.
-The right-wing N-VA won a plurality in Belgium.
-The right-wing People's Party is in control in Spain.
-John Howard was the PM of Australia just 4 years ago.

Those are just a few examples. Again, I'm conceding that "right-wing" in America means something different from right-wing in Europe, Asia, or Australia. However, I think there is no doubt that the right has enjoyed a resurgence in the last decade world-wide.

Where are the wars taking place everywhere? Is the current time more martial than most others since WW2, for example?

I should have stated "conflict" rather than wars. I'm referring of course to Iraq, Afghanistan, and the global "war on terror". I would argue that since WW2, this is the most heightened amount of conflict we've experienced and it is a major factor in people turning to the conservative parties of their respective countries.