Last edited by Samuel_Vimes; 28-11-2011 at 02:13 PM.
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Originally Posted by Henk Westbroek
what the spin doctors are saying:
How Republicans are being taught to talk about Occupy Wall Street | The Ticket - Yahoo! News
Where as Wall street much prefer socialism to capitalism.The public . . . still prefers capitalism to socialism
pretty lol and indicative of the thinking of PR companies. Spin doctors will say anything and corrupt the principles of leaders.
Hoping that Gingrich (or someone else besides Romney, except Huntsman) wins the nomination. Best chance for four more Obama years.
I think, with the way the political situation is now, he would lose to Romney (and to Huntsman, but no way Huntsman will ever get the nomination). Gingrich and most of the others would be destroyed though.
After all, he was elected governor to a very liberal state and he was a mormon back then too (though with very different political views). I don't suspect it's going to be an issue, especially as those same extremely conservative people would prefer a Mormon president over someone who they still probably suspect is a 'secret muslim.' So overall, it won't hurt him at all if he makes it out to the general election.
As silly as Newt's views on swapping 'mexicans janitors for children' sounds, in a recent interview he did have more method to his madness. He was running on anecdotal evidence of most of the business tycoons in the US today who kicked around as paper boys or flipping burgers when they were in their teens. It would be more interesting if he had an economic study which could show the link between lifelong unemployment and hours worked as a teen. Liberal (english sense) philosophy is built on individual responsibility so I can see this as a decent position given it gives people a taste of managing money, time and teamwork etc.
Border protection also seems to be a big issue, with accusations being thrown around between republicans over the ammnesty vs hard line approach. Survey data in Aus showed that this kind of rhetoric hold traction ~ in proportion to unemployment rates, similarly with 'being tough on welfare' right now that kind of policy is a dog as people realise it's tough to get a job.
That I know of.
You can look at his tenure as the governor of massachusets and I'm sure you'll find a lot more - he needed to say he supported a bunch of those things in order to get elected in Massachusets, just like he needs to say he supports a bunch of opposite things to get elected in the Republican primary. If he does get to the general election (and unfortunately, I think he will, and I think he's got a good shot of beating Obama too), I bet you'll see a few more flip flops again back to his original position so he can win over the independents.
Last edited by silentstriker; 03-12-2011 at 04:44 AM.
Newt is a moron and elitist, I will never vote for the guy even if he came up with the best of the policies, not that he has one. The only two republicans that I would consider voting would be Romney (Despite all his flip flops) and Huntsman. Huntsman is someone I would vote for even over Obama.
Huntsman has gained some noticable traction recently. He'd be better than the other candidates not named Paul; but in many areas he seems to be more progressive than conservative. The two party system is truly a sham.
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