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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey View Post
    how's the political system going guys
    Swimmingly well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jono View Post
    You always say **** like this. The idea that he is happy with how this ended up is crazy.
    I think he has a point. It doesn’t matter to Ted Cruz that the Republican party took a beating and now has the most unpopular ratings in polling history. He comes out of this as the leader of the Tea Party and the unquestioned front runner in the 2016 elections. The thing is, Ted Cruz is a smart guy (his political views are nuts, but that doesn’t mean he’s dumb). He knew that the idea of shutting down the government to gut Obamacare was doomed from the start. He didn’t care. It was all about him and getting his name recognition up in front of the Republican base. And he succeeded. People no longer talk about Marco Rubio or Rand Paul as the “stars” of the GOP (especially the Tea Party wing); they now point to Ted Cruz. He is now so powerful that John Cornyn, the senior Senator from Texas (who’s the Minority Whip and in essence the #2 guy in the GOP Senate hierarchy), defers to him and is clearly afraid of angering him. The Republican Party may have lost, but Ted Cruz won his objectives.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Spark View Post
    btw SS how is that big GOP pivot on immigration going
    It's gonna pass before Obama leaves office I bet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jono View Post
    You always say **** like this. The idea that he is happy with how this ended up is crazy.
    Look at his polls in the republican primary...


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    tbh, we're all speculating until Cruz himself says something but, in my experience, sociopathically ambitious people hate losing anything even there is a subsequent upside so I'm going with that he isn't happy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentstriker View Post
    It's gonna pass before Obama leaves office I bet.
    Sure, but it won't be by the GOP suddenly moderating their position and broadening their appeal to Hispanics. It'll be because they got dragged kicking and screaming to the table.
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    Immigration will pass because it's one of the few things democrats want that don't require a wee bit of extra revenue to be raised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spark View Post
    Sure, but it won't be by the GOP suddenly moderating their position and broadening their appeal to Hispanics. It'll be because they got dragged kicking and screaming to the table.
    Yea. Of course. But that's them moderating. Remember they are the ones who torpedoed the last immigration bill under a Republican president.

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    Senator Cruz returns to Texas welcome after shutdown battle

    What happened is exactly what Cruz was looking for.

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    Obama puts ?no sugarcoating' on Obamacare site glitches
    .“The phone number for these call centers is 1-800-318-2596,” he said. “Wait times have averaged less than one minute so far on the call centers, although I admit that the wait times probably might go up a little bit now that I've read the number out loud on national television.”

    He was right. A call placed to that number moments later got an automated reply citing “extremely high call volume” and suggested making another attempt later in the day or this weekend. The call then disconnected
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    That's pretty hilarious. This thing has been so ridiculously botched. It doesn't matter how good your product is if no one can buy it. It doesn't seem like any stress testing was done at all - which is unfatbomable in this day and age.

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    There are always glitches with new systems, and especially in this case due to the scale. .
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    Yeah, look, it gives me a pain deep inside my uterus to admit it, but it's Ajmal until such time as we get a working throwing law again.
    Never in a million years would I have thought Brumby to admit this!!!!!!

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    Obama catching the lady fainting mid-speech

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Nationaux View Post
    There are always glitches with new systems, and especially in this case due to the scale. .
    This is not a "glitch". They had three years and it's a disaster.

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    At late as a week before the launch date, the paper reported, no one had thought to test whether or not a user could complete the process of signing up for a health insurance plan through the site
    Report claims ObamaCare website builders warned of issues before launch | Fox News

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    Fairly incompetent and pretty much irrelevant long-term tbh (unless it lasts, like, three months)



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