The American Politics thread - Page 132

Spark · 11-10-2012, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Sanz

This bump is going to help Romney because Early voting has already started and some of the swing states do allow early voting (FL, OH, NV, IA, WI & CO). Early voting is suposed to work in Democrat's favor, unfortunately Obama's poor performance in the debate is going to hurt him.

These same early voters who, in Ohio, are backing Obama by a mere 26 points?

To say that he's on the verge of disaster or even anywhere near disaster is stunningly fallacious.

Has it tightened? For sure. But Romney sure as hell isn't winning yet.

Sanz · 11-10-2012, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Spark

These same early voters who, in Ohio, are backing Obama by a mere 26 points?

To say that he's on the verge of disaster or even anywhere near disaster is stunningly fallacious.

Has it tightened? For sure. But Romney sure as hell isn't winning yet.

Did I not say that OHIO is Obama's only hope ? And I am not sure where you are getting that 26 point lead, here is how it looks in Ohio as of 9th Oct 2012.

http://www2.ohio-votes.com/news/loca...politics/poll/

Fusion · 11-10-2012, 11:43 AM

SS/Sanz/Anil – it seems that you are convinced that Obama will lose. I don’t have the same certainty that you all seem to have in the outcome, but I do believe the Obama will prevail in a close contest. Heck I’ll contend that he can lose the next two debates and it won’t matter because I just don’t think debates matter that much in the grand scheme of things. So how about a friendly avatar wager? If Romney wins, you get to control my avatar for a month (each of you will own it for a month). If Obama wins, I get to own your avatar for a month. What say you?

nightprowler10 · 11-10-2012, 01:29 PM

Grow some balls and do it for all four years.

Fusion · 11-10-2012, 02:27 PM

Haha, as I said, I'm not as confident in my prediction as they seem to be on theirs.

So you know that big bounce that Romney got after the debate? Well it wasn't that big in the swing states

Indeed, despite all the headlines you’re seeing this morning, the real story in today’s NBC/WSJ and NYT/CBS swing state polls is how little movement there has been in key battlegrounds, not how much. Today’s NBC/WSJ polls found that Obama leads in Ohio by 51-45, after leading by 51-43 before the debate. Obama leads in Florida by 48-47, after leading by 47-46 before the debate. Obviously, neither of those are big shifts. (The biggest movement came in Virginia, where Romney now leads by 48-47 after a shift of three points.)

Meanwhile, the NYT/CBS polls show Obama leading in Virginia by 51-46, after leading 50-46 before the debate. And Obama is leading in Wisconsin by 50-47, after leading 51-45 before the debate. Even in Colorado, where Romney now leads by 48-47, the shift was all of two points, from 47-48 before the debates.

Anil · 11-10-2012, 02:54 PM

Fusion I like your optimism and it would be wonderful if it came true...just don't think there is much of a chance...

morgieb · 11-10-2012, 03:10 PM

Still reckon SS/Sanz/Anil are Gambhring. Yes Romney's made ground but most Democrats I speak to seem to think Obama will still win.

silentstriker · 11-10-2012, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Fusion

SS/Sanz/Anil – it seems that you are convinced that Obama will lose. I don’t have the same certainty that you all seem to have in the outcome, but I do believe the Obama will prevail in a close contest. Heck I’ll contend that he can lose the next two debates and it won’t matter because I just don’t think debates matter that much in the grand scheme of things. So how about a friendly avatar wager? If Romney wins, you get to control my avatar for a month (each of you will own it for a month). If Obama wins, I get to own your avatar for a month. What say you?

Deal.

Fusion · 11-10-2012, 07:15 PM

Both Biden and Ryan come out swinging. Biden did the best he could answering the bad handling of the Libya situation by the Obama administration.

silentstriker · 11-10-2012, 07:22 PM

He needs to stop snickering though. His answers are good.

He needs to YELL 'DO YOU WANT ANOTHER IRAQ?'

Fusion · 11-10-2012, 07:22 PM

So umm Joe can do with a little bit less of the smiling and laughing.

silentstriker · 11-10-2012, 07:23 PM

Haha, "he changes his mind so often, I could be wrong"

silentstriker · 11-10-2012, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Fusion

So umm Joe can do with a little bit less of the smiling and laughing.

I beat you. As usual.

Fusion · 11-10-2012, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by silentstriker

I beat you. As usual.

Haha, wait until I delete your post.

Spark · 11-10-2012, 07:25 PM

Doing well is Biden. Not sure he should keep laughing at Ryan though, as tempting as it may be.

11-10-2012, 01:29 PM	#1969 (permalink)
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11-10-2012, 11:43 AM	#1968 (permalink)
Fusion Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: United States Posts: 10,783	SS/Sanz/Anil – it seems that you are convinced that Obama will lose. I don’t have the same certainty that you all seem to have in the outcome, but I do believe the Obama will prevail in a close contest. Heck I’ll contend that he can lose the next two debates and it won’t matter because I just don’t think debates matter that much in the grand scheme of things. So how about a friendly avatar wager? If Romney wins, you get to control my avatar for a month (each of you will own it for a month). If Obama wins, I get to own your avatar for a month. What say you?

11-10-2012, 02:27 PM	#1970 (permalink)
Fusion Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: United States Posts: 10,783	Haha, as I said, I'm not as confident in my prediction as they seem to be on theirs. So you know that big bounce that Romney got after the debate? Well it wasn't that big in the swing states Indeed, despite all the headlines you’re seeing this morning, the real story in today’s NBC/WSJ and NYT/CBS swing state polls is how little movement there has been in key battlegrounds, not how much. Today’s NBC/WSJ polls found that Obama leads in Ohio by 51-45, after leading by 51-43 before the debate. Obama leads in Florida by 48-47, after leading by 47-46 before the debate. Obviously, neither of those are big shifts. (The biggest movement came in Virginia, where Romney now leads by 48-47 after a shift of three points.) Meanwhile, the NYT/CBS polls show Obama leading in Virginia by 51-46, after leading 50-46 before the debate. And Obama is leading in Wisconsin by 50-47, after leading 51-45 before the debate. Even in Colorado, where Romney now leads by 48-47, the shift was all of two points, from 47-48 before the debates.

11-10-2012, 07:15 PM	#1974 (permalink)
Fusion Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: United States Posts: 10,783	Both Biden and Ryan come out swinging. Biden did the best he could answering the bad handling of the Libya situation by the Obama administration.

11-10-2012, 07:22 PM	#1975 (permalink)
silentstriker The Wheel is Forever Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: USA Posts: 36,546	He needs to stop snickering though. His answers are good. He needs to YELL 'DO YOU WANT ANOTHER IRAQ?'

11-10-2012, 07:22 PM	#1976 (permalink)
Fusion Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: United States Posts: 10,783	So umm Joe can do with a little bit less of the smiling and laughing.

11-10-2012, 07:23 PM	#1977 (permalink)
silentstriker The Wheel is Forever Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: USA Posts: 36,546	Haha, "he changes his mind so often, I could be wrong"

11-10-2012, 07:25 PM	#1980 (permalink)
Spark Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: A Blood Rainbow Posts: 26,759	Doing well is Biden. Not sure he should keep laughing at Ryan though, as tempting as it may be.

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