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    I am thinking that the Aussies are two faced. They load about Broad not walking, it was Greg Chappell that said it's the umpires jod to give a batsman out. He never walked, so stop bitching when it happens to you.

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    Thinking about what might have been. Labour leader David Shearer steps down - National - NZ Herald News



    I believe he would have been a really great prime minister. He's just too nice a guy for the politics and campaigning required to get there. Time for some electable **** to take over, I guess. Democracy sucks sometimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gavbro View Post
    I am thinking that the Aussies are two faced. They load about Broad not walking, it was Greg Chappell that said it's the umpires jod to give a batsman out. He never walked, so stop bitching when it happens to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by _Ed_ View Post
    Thinking about what might have been. Labour leader David Shearer steps down - National - NZ Herald News



    I believe he would have been a really great prime minister. He's just too nice a guy for the politics and campaigning required to get there. Time for some electable **** to take over, I guess. Democracy sucks sometimes.

    there's a fine line between nice guy and pushover, and shearer was clearly walking on it. If you can't manage to make John Key look like a **** as opposition leader then you're in the wrong business.
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    Shearer wasn't a leader or a public speaker, simple as.

    I hope Robertson gets it because I refuse to vote for ****liffe, which would make Labour a no-go for me. ****ing sleaze.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flem274* View Post
    Shearer wasn't a leader or a public speaker, simple as.
    True, but he did have moments of brilliance at it, like this one last week:

    Key: If there was a terrorist attack, David Shearer would be running for the hills.
    Shearer: I didn't in Iraq.

    Boom. He didn't say stuff like that enough, and he was far too modest about his amazing achievements. If I'd been working for his campaign, I would have tried to focus on the fact that while Key was making his millions, Shearer was doing some pretty heroic stuff in dangerous places like Iraq, Rwanda etc. I really think a lot of voters had no idea about that.

    Ah well. Not to be. Hopefully Labour will sneak over the line in 2014 and Shearer can be a brilliant foreign affairs minister.

    I agree about Cunliffe. I don't like him either. It's weird. He seems to be widely despised by his caucus colleagues and voters alike, yet he remains so prominent. It's a mystery.

    I'd like to see Robertson get it too, but I'd worry that he'd fall into that same 'too nice' trap as Shearer did. Then there's also the issue of his sexual orientation - it really shouldn't matter, but I think it might be a problem for him. Some people, sadly, might not feel ready to elect a gay prime minister.

    I see Shane Jones has entered the race. He's awesome, but I don't think he stands a chance - his past... indiscretions will count against him.

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    The people who wouldn't vote for Robertson based on his sexuality wouldn't vote for Labour anyway. In fact they really shouldn't be allowed to vote at all.

    Jacinda Adern is pretty popular with younger lefties.

    When Key goes Nikki Kaye would be one I would support getting in ahead of the far right Bill English clones or the fake libertarians, but her being a hot young blonde with very un-National like beliefs in some areas and a very un-National background (scientist) might hold her back,.

    But she seriously knows her **** and she speaks very well. It's why she's a cabinet minister already. Depends on how good she is at controlling the sharks I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flem274* View Post
    The people who wouldn't vote for Robertson based on his sexuality wouldn't vote for Labour anyway. In fact they really shouldn't be allowed to vote at all.
    slightly overestimating a large proportion of the NZ public here imo

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    Yeah. It's the undecideds in the middle who determine the outcome of the election, and a lot of them will be more uneasy with it than we'd like to think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Ed_ View Post
    True, but he did have moments of brilliance at it, like this one last week:

    Key: If there was a terrorist attack, David Shearer would be running for the hills.
    Shearer: I didn't in Iraq.

    Boom. He didn't say stuff like that enough, and he was far too modest about his amazing achievements. If I'd been working for his campaign, I would have tried to focus on the fact that while Key was making his millions, Shearer was doing some pretty heroic stuff in dangerous places like Iraq, Rwanda etc. I really think a lot of voters had no idea about that.

    Ah well. Not to be. Hopefully Labour will sneak over the line in 2014 and Shearer can be a brilliant foreign affairs minister.

    I agree about Cunliffe. I don't like him either. It's weird. He seems to be widely despised by his caucus colleagues and voters alike, yet he remains so prominent. It's a mystery.I'd like to see Robertson get it too, but I'd worry that he'd fall into that same 'too nice' trap as Shearer did. Then there's also the issue of his sexual orientation - it really shouldn't matter, but I think it might be a problem for him. Some people, sadly, might not feel ready to elect a gay prime minister.

    I see Shane Jones has entered the race. He's awesome, but I don't think he stands a chance - his past... indiscretions will count against him.
    Not really. Cunliffe is a strong public speaker with a good background in diplomacy, economics and social policy and a lot of experience in NZ politics. Also, as distasteful as we may find it, ambition (even naked ambition) is crucial for any top level politician, and Cunliffe has it in spades.

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    Don't think Robertson being gay will be any more of an issue for the electorate than Obama being black was for America. The only people who would be bothered by it are already locked in for NZ First and the Conservative party. Still, I could see how it might spook those responsible for deciding the next Labour leader so I agree that it's probably unlikely. A Cunliffe-Robertson pairing seems most likely at this stage. In any case, I still struggle to see a Labour-led coalition winning the next election.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bahnz View Post
    Not really. Cunliffe is a strong public speaker with a good background in diplomacy, economics and social policy and a lot of experience in NZ politics. Also, as distasteful as we may find it, ambition (even naked ambition) is crucial for any top level politician, and Cunliffe has it in spades.
    Yeah, true. But he has a painting of himself up on the wall of his living room FFS.

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    I saw that! And the word for word copying of Grant Robertson's press release announcing his decision to stand for the leadership! What a man!

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    Must be nice to be able to display your fapping material on your wall like that.

    Key will wreck him. New Zealand and his own party already hate the ****. All Key needs to do is continually bring up incidents like the painting and the press release and ****liffe will sink. I wouldn't be surprised to see Labour make him the leader just so they can get rid of him for good. Enough rope and all that.

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