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    I'm guessing what Flem posted was what he was thinking at the time he read your post, meaning his post is valid for this thread.


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    Lol, just explaining myself. Wasn't questioning his right to post (again a technicality).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Nationaux View Post
    Where are the tears Mr President for the children that die due to your drone strikes?
    Yup and all the kids killed in palestine from weapons he has sanctioned. ****ing disgusting.
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    Or the kids missed off Santa's 'Nice List.'

    Tragic.

    Oh yeah, thats right, Obama is a man who, whether you agree with what he does or not, is expected to make tough decisions, be strong about them, and see them though. I'm sure he hates the fact innocent people are killed/injured by his decisions, but he can steel himself against that by knowing in advance, and telling himself (rightly or wrongly, thats not the issue) that its for a greater good.

    However when the children killed are 'his', and not part of an ongoing conflict but an act of incomprehensable savagry, then I suppose its harder to keep his emotions in check.
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    And drone attacks on civilians aren't an act of savagery? But that's just statistics I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Nationaux View Post
    And drone attacks on civilians aren't an act of savagery? But that's just statistics I guess.
    Of course they are, but the sad reality of a conflict is there are two types of people - "Ours" and "Others".
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    There's no ours involved. It's machines dropping bombs. And it's not achieving anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhoenixFire View Post
    Yup and all the kids killed in palestine from weapons he has sanctioned. ****ing disgusting.
    I don't see why you find the whole thing sarcastic. Is it amusing when people are killed from drones attacks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Nationaux View Post
    There's no ours involved. It's machines dropping bombs. And it's not achieving anything.
    I don't disagree with you, I'm just saying that's how they look at it. There's no "ours" involved because a bloke on an aircraft acrrier a thousand miles away or wherever flies the drone, as opposed to a pilot in a jet or troops on th eground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Nationaux View Post
    And drone attacks on civilians aren't an act of savagery? But that's just statistics I guess.
    Didn't say that, in fact deliberately avoided the argument of 'were the politics behind his actions right or wrong', I was just stating he has to take actions, has to think of the consequences, satisfy himself with them, and if justifiable to him/his nations overall strategic aims, take them. If innocents are hurt, he's prepared, expected, steeled himself and justified it to himself, hence no tears...... However when a random attack occurs with no tangible reason which kills innocents he is duty bound to protect, forgive him for not having his emotions in check.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cpr View Post
    Didn't say that, in fact deliberately avoided the argument of 'were the politics behind his actions right or wrong', I was just stating he has to take actions, has to think of the consequences, satisfy himself with them, and if justifiable to him/his nations overall strategic aims, take them. If innocents are hurt, he's prepared, expected, steeled himself and justified it to himself, hence no tears...... However when a random attack occurs with no tangible reason which kills innocents he is duty bound to protect, forgive him for not having his emotions in check.
    Didn't mean to accuse you. Sorry if it came out like that.

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    Must be a cold heart that always has to justify when children die as collateral. I could never do it and would always see myself as a monster if I was in that position.

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    he can probably justify it by reminding himself that he's the commander-in-chief, and flying killing robots that allow the US to kill their enemies without sending in any troops who might be placed in danger is worth it, children dying as collateral and all.

    i mean it's pretty obvious isn't it

    of course doesn't mean it's right and something has to be done about it. but yeah
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Nationaux View Post
    Must be a cold heart that always has to justify when children die as collateral. I could never do it and would always see myself as a monster if I was in that position.
    That's geopolitics, son.
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