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    The Lost Symbol

    The new book by Dan Brown .... Has anyone read it?
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    Plan on reading it soon as I have nothing on my list and Darwin's Black Box is pretty boring. Might pick it up this weekend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nightprowler10 View Post
    Darwin's Black Box
    LOL. Why are you reading that crap?

    From a guy who admitted - under oath in court - that under his expanded definition, astrology would be considered a science.
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    Just started reading it today, will post a review here when finished.


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    Quote Originally Posted by silentstriker View Post
    LOL. Why are you reading that crap?.
    Lost a bet. Think I mentioned it here. The guy makes some decent points but his reasoning is at times childish. That and his writing is painstakingly redundant which makes it very hard to get through. I'm more than halfway through it but doubt I'll finish it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fusion View Post
    Just started reading it today, will post a review here when finished.
    Has Robert Langdon fallen in love with the dead guy's daughter yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightprowler10 View Post
    Lost a bet. Think I mentioned it here. The guy makes some decent points but his reasoning is at times childish. That and his writing is painstakingly redundant which makes it very hard to get through. I'm more than halfway through it but doubt I'll finish it.
    I've read the book, someone needs to tell me what these good points are...

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    Quote Originally Posted by silentstriker View Post
    I've read the book, someone needs to tell me what these good points are...
    That many systems of the body seem irreducibly complex and its mind boggling to think they could've evolved in a step by step evolution. So he raises a fair question but he's basically saying since there's no proof such things could've evolved to their current state so it must be God. While I obviously don't have much of a problem believing that there is a higher power involved, his reasoning is just lazy. There's no proof for those specific systems so it must be God? That's like saying there's no proof that God exists so---oh.

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    Key words in that argument - and I know your paraphrasing - are "seem" and "mind-boggling". One basically flags that he doesn't understand the issue he's talking about but will make a judgment on it anyway, and the second highlights that its an entirely subjective judgement based on his gut reaction - "****, that would be astounding if true, so it can't be". As opposed to an omniscient, omnipotent Diety who created this world in such astounding detail, and can understand and judge the souls of all mankind, and yet dislikes homosexuality, pre-marital sex, or working on the Sabbath.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nightprowler10 View Post
    That many systems of the body seem irreducibly complex and its mind boggling to think they could've evolved in a step by step evolution.
    The two most widely used examples are the eye and the bacterial flagellum. In both cases, and especially the eye, his arguments are bunk - there are good explanations. But yes, theoretically, there will always be things we don't understand, and he's just dressing up 'God of the gaps' argument in pseudo-scientific language.

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    "I don't understand it" = God did it.

    Obviously.

    Other things God made:

    Nuclear power plants
    The state education system of the Ukraine
    Cars
    Rockets
    Which ridiculously unlikely conspiracy happened in which Dan Brown book
    Derren Brown's lottery predicting stunt
    People
    Or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamee999 View Post
    "I don't understand it" = God did it.

    Obviously.

    Other things God made:

    Nuclear power plants
    The state education system of the Ukraine
    Cars
    Rockets
    Which ridiculously unlikely conspiracy happened in which Dan Brown book
    Derren Brown's lottery predicting stunt
    People

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    Quote Originally Posted by silentstriker View Post

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    God remains curiously quiet on the ticklish "little kiddies getting cancer" issue too. Although his advocates quite happy to take the credit on his behalf when that nice oncologist cures little Johnny or Janey.

    To paraphrase Peter Cook, if I was creating the universe I'd probably have left cancer out. Still at least we aren't tormented by being eternally young and virile and being able to **** everyone.
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