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    Michael Jackson's legacy, popularity and impact vs The Beatles and others

    Quote Originally Posted by duffer View Post
    That said, this probably rivals the death of Elvis as far as the biggest death in music history.
    John Lennon would like a word.
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    Jacko is bigger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duffer View Post
    Jacko is bigger.

    RIP King of Pop.
    There are still stacks of people who visit his shrine every day in central park, would be surprised if Jackson has that much impact 30 years on. Lennon's death hit so much harder for so many reasons, most of all because he wasn't completely ********.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pasag View Post
    There are still stacks of people who visit his shrine every day in central park, would be surprised if Jackson has that much impact 30 years on. Lennon's death hit so much harder for so many reasons, most of all because he wasn't completely ********.
    Time will tell.


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    Quote Originally Posted by duffer View Post
    Jacko is bigger.

    RIP King of Pop.
    Nah, not having that. See below IMO

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    There are still stacks of people who visit his shrine every day in central park, would be surprised if Jackson has that much impact 30 years on. Lennon's death hit so much harder for so many reasons, most of all because he wasn't completely ********.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G.I.Joe View Post
    RIP.

    Great talent. Will be missed. No one here gives a flying **** about Lennon.
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    And it's like that in a lot of places around the world.
    As Zac said, let's see how much he's missed in 30 years. Lennon = God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeraintIsMyHero View Post
    As Zac said, let's see how much he's missed in 30 years. Lennon = God.
    There are Elvis fan clubs here years after he's gone. People draw a blank when you mention the name Lennon. Says it all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeraintIsMyHero View Post
    As Zac said, let's see how much he's missed in 30 years.
    Like I said. Time will tell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G.I.Joe View Post
    There are Elvis fan clubs here years after he's gone. People draw a blank when you mention the name Lennon. Says it all.
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    If only I had a buck for everytime Imagine cropped up at the mention of Lennon's name, I'd be a millionaire.

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    Lennon's a legend but surely part of his legacy is the tragedy of his death.

    I think you'd be silly to deny MJ won't be remembered in 30 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pasag View Post
    There are still stacks of people who visit his shrine every day in central park, would be surprised if Jackson has that much impact 30 years on.
    How could you possibly think he won't? His fan base is absolutely mammoth, and spans over generations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by inbox24 View Post
    Michael Jackson was the greatest singer to have ever lived.
    Yep. Not sure you would have said that yesterday if asked who the greatest singer to have ever lived was.

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    Jacko is bigger.

    RIP King of Pop.
    Yeah look, Jacko made an extremely significant contribution to the music scene and had a huge huge fan base that wouldn't surpass Beatlemania. You can play the 'individual v group' card if you like but everyone knew who Lennon was.

    Lennon was a huge political figure, and had many messages that resonated with that generation. His music will always be put into the context of what was happening in that era. He was outspoken about the contemporary issues of the time and was always in the public eye for being a bit of a nutter who mobilised a massive amount of people with similar agenda. His death was also one of the most significant events of modern history.

    While Jacko may hold claim to the definitive music of that time and was also a huge public figure, it never really said much more than moonwalking is awesome. He was also a nutter, but he was genuinely mental and the butt of all jokes, rather than just having crazy ideas that resulted in him doing some obscure things.

    I think both music will be timeless but I don't think Jacko will be ideolised in the same way as Lennon, and probably won't be as famous thirty years down the track.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jono View Post
    Lennon's a legend but surely part of his legacy is the tragedy of his death.

    I think you'd be silly to deny MJ won't be remembered in 30 years.
    Jackson's death scarcely less tragic, in all honesty. More the culmination of unchecked abuse of his own body, and I'm sure a lot will be written on the effect huge sums of money can have in unreleasing whatever neuroses one has, but he was still a relatively young man.

    However, even in the aftermath of his death, I doubt any serious music critic would dare to put him alongside Lennon as an artist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby View Post
    Jackson's death scarcely less tragic, in all honesty. More the culmination of unchecked abuse of his own body, and I'm sure a lot will be written on the effect huge sums of money can have in unreleasing whatever neuroses one has, but he was still a relatively young man.
    Being shot dead by a nutter still brings more attention and sorrow than dying due to substance abuse.
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    However, even in the aftermath of his death, I doubt any serious music critic would dare to put him alongside Lennon as an artist.
    I don't think many people will deny that, because of the matters he tackled. However Morgan Freeman is a better actor than Arnie though, Arnie clearly the bigger legacy.
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