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    Quote Originally Posted by Athlai View Post
    Thats a massive claim.

    More likely that something just managed to ignite the fuel tank and that was the cause of it blowing up in the air. May have even been the predicted lightning strike.
    Massive claim indeed, but the first thing I thought was "Lockerbie"... Looks like thats not happened though which is a relief in the smallest possible way
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    Terror link suspected behind Air France jet crash

    Paris: The possibility of a terror link in the crash of the Air France jet into the Atlantic emerged on Wednesday night with a leading TV channel reporting that two of the passengers had shared names with some terror suspects, but the French police appeared to downplay it.

    Two names on the doomed AF 447's passenger manifest also appear on a list of radical Muslims considered a threat to France, Sky News reported quoting French investigators.

    French secret servicemen established the connection while working through the list of those who boarded the doomed Airbus in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, on May 31, the channel said.

    Agents are now trying to establish dates of birth for the two dead passengers, and family connections, the channel quoted a source as saying. There is a possibility that the name similarities are simply a "macabre coincidence," the source added, but the revelation is still being "taken very seriously."

    A source working for the French security services told Paris weekly LExpress that the link was "highly significant." The French police however appeared to downplay the possibility of a terror link and said this was a simple coincidence while ruling out a link to the accident.

    A senior French officer was quoted as saying that the names were "simple namesakes" and dismissed the notion that the suspects were on board, adding that this line of enquiry had been dismissed.

    The website of L'Express had also reported that French agents were making inquiries after finding the names of two suspected Islamist militants on the manifest Flight 447 crashed in mid-Atlantic en route to Paris during a violent storm with the loss of all 228 people on board. Officials have not yet identified the cause of the crash, but so far the investigation appears to have concentrated on the stormy weather in the area and a possible problem with the Airbus A330's airspeed monitors.

    While aviation experts have said it is certain that there were computer malfunctions, terrorism has not yet been ruled out. Soon after news of the fatal crash broke, agents working for the DGSE (Direction Gnrale de la Scurit Extrieure), were dispatched to Brazil.

    It was there that they established that two names on the passenger list are also on highly classified documents listing the names of radical Muslims considered a threat to the French Republic, the TV channel reported.

    France has received numerous threats from Islamic terrorist groups in recent months, especially since French troops were sent to fight in Afghanistan.

    Source: PTI

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosh View Post
    Terror link suspected behind Air France jet crash

    Paris: The possibility of a terror link in the crash of the Air France jet into the Atlantic emerged on Wednesday night with a leading TV channel reporting that two of the passengers had shared names with some terror suspects, but the French police appeared to downplay it.

    Two names on the doomed AF 447's passenger manifest also appear on a list of radical Muslims considered a threat to France, Sky News reported quoting French investigators.

    French secret servicemen established the connection while working through the list of those who boarded the doomed Airbus in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, on May 31, the channel said.

    Agents are now trying to establish dates of birth for the two dead passengers, and family connections, the channel quoted a source as saying. There is a possibility that the name similarities are simply a "macabre coincidence," the source added, but the revelation is still being "taken very seriously."

    A source working for the French security services told Paris weekly LExpress that the link was "highly significant." The French police however appeared to downplay the possibility of a terror link and said this was a simple coincidence while ruling out a link to the accident.

    A senior French officer was quoted as saying that the names were "simple namesakes" and dismissed the notion that the suspects were on board, adding that this line of enquiry had been dismissed.

    The website of L'Express had also reported that French agents were making inquiries after finding the names of two suspected Islamist militants on the manifest Flight 447 crashed in mid-Atlantic en route to Paris during a violent storm with the loss of all 228 people on board. Officials have not yet identified the cause of the crash, but so far the investigation appears to have concentrated on the stormy weather in the area and a possible problem with the Airbus A330's airspeed monitors.

    While aviation experts have said it is certain that there were computer malfunctions, terrorism has not yet been ruled out. Soon after news of the fatal crash broke, agents working for the DGSE (Direction Gnrale de la Scurit Extrieure), were dispatched to Brazil.

    It was there that they established that two names on the passenger list are also on highly classified documents listing the names of radical Muslims considered a threat to the French Republic, the TV channel reported.

    France has received numerous threats from Islamic terrorist groups in recent months, especially since French troops were sent to fight in Afghanistan.

    Source: PTI

    Thats somewhat worrying.. Like I've said earlier, it's unlikely that a jet would fly into weather so bad that it would just disappear..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Langeveldt View Post
    Thats somewhat worrying.. Like I've said earlier, it's unlikely that a jet would fly into weather so bad that it would just disappear..
    And let's face it, France doesn't have the cleanest record dealing with people it doesn't like.

    Still, bit of a stretch at this point, mainly because it's still unclear what happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smith View Post
    Sabotage? If yes, wouldnt the interested group come forward with claims?
    Heh, even if its untrue, seems like you pre-empted what was about to come out.
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    Think someone would've claimed responsibility by now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jono View Post
    Heh, even if its untrue, seems like you pre-empted what was about to come out.
    Don't think so. Particularly because no radical group has so far come out claiming responsibility for the attack. And am fairly sure that the agencies in Brazil would have been looking at some Abdul Rahman or Mohammad Khan, which makes the names of perhaps lakhs of muslims over the world.

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    It seems the terror link has been ruled out. Read below:


    Air France Jet 'Disintegrated In Mid-Air'
    1:12pm UK, Thursday June 11, 2009

    Firstly, bodies from Flight 447 had been picked up from locations more than 50 miles apart, the Brazilian Air Force revealed.

    And secondly, a re-analysis of the plane's last automatic transmissions indicated many parts had malfunctioned before it plunged into the Atlantic.

    Manufacturer Airbus told customers the investigation re-enforced the belief that the parts measuring air speed were the first to fail.

    The plane's three speed sensors, or Pitot tubes, are likely to have malfunctioned four hours into the flight from Rio de Janeiro to Paris, according to pilot union officials who examined the data.

    Sky News has also learned that automated messages showed a gradual change in the cabin pressure shortly before the plane crashed.

    This could suggest that the plane was either climbing or descending, and could again dismiss the idea of an explosion or a catastrophic break up.

    Meanwhile, two terror suspects who died alongside 226 other passengers on the stricken jet have been ruled out as a cause of the disaster.

    The two men only "shared the same name" as known Islamic radicals, posthumous security checks found.

    Although their bodies have yet to be recovered, France's Interior Ministry confirmed that a "deep and wide-ranging investigation has allowed us to clear them".


    The announcement came as the urgent hunt for the flight's black boxes was boosted by the introduction of a French nuclear submarine.

    Emeraude will trawl 13 square miles a day, using sonar to attempt to pick up the boxes' acoustic beacons before they begin fading in three weeks' time.

    Brazilian searchers in charge of recovering floating bodies and debris say the surface search area has now widened into Senegalese waters.

    Ocean currents have pushed the remnants far and wide since the jet went down on June 1 on route to Charles de Gaulle International airport.

    The black boxes provide the best hope of unravelling the cause of the worst aviation accident since 2001.


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    Heh, that's nothing. You should read all the stuff being written by people talking about the fact there were anti-arms industry activists on board who were knocked-off. Unbelieveable.

    The latest theory proposes a bad judgement call by the captain with the plane near so-called 'coffin corner'. This guy is a bit hysterical, I reckon. Not a pilot either so take from that what you will.

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    Plane crash | Indian Ocean | Yemenia Air | Comoros archipelago | Paris | Yemen

    This article is reporting it as 'possibly' another Airbus A330-200, same as the Air France one but others aren't reporting the aircraft type. Certainly Yemenia have a coupel of them in their fleet;

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    Airbus A330-200 = BOAC Comet?

    EDIT: Just found the scheduled flight was actually one of their 310's. Still, they're very similar and Airbus shareholders must be a bit nervy.
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