Victorian Bushfires

howardj · 09-02-2009, 02:20 PM

A very quick shoutout to all our CW Victorian cousins affected by the terrible fires over the weekend. It really was awful to check in on the news sites yesterday and see the death toll climb. Sympathies to all.

GIMH · 09-02-2009, 02:22 PM

Yeah, sympathies to everyone,

Flem274* · 09-02-2009, 04:25 PM

Hope all the CW guys are OK

Uppercut · 09-02-2009, 05:28 PM

Yeah, very sad to see, hope everyone's doing okay.

Days of Grace · 09-02-2009, 07:38 PM

How do all these fires start naturally?

dontcloseyoureyes · 09-02-2009, 07:57 PM

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How do all these fires start naturally?

Dry as hell low lying bush and dead-leaf litter + 45 degree heat.

Sanz · 09-02-2009, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Days of Grace

How do all these fires start naturally?

Negligence is one of the reasons IMO. I dont know about Australia, but here in US, lot of people, who go on outdoors picnic or BBQ stuff, dont feel it necessary to put out the fire before they leave.

pasag · 09-02-2009, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Sanz

Negligence is one of the reasons IMO. I dont know about Australia, but here in US, lot of people, who go on outdoors picnic or BBQ stuff, dont feel it necessary to put out the fire before they leave.

There were total fire bans on the day and no one in their right mind would be having a BBQ at the time. Though some of the fires were light deliberately.

NZTailender · 09-02-2009, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Days of Grace

How do all these fires start naturally?

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Originally Posted by dontcloseyoureyes

Dry as hell low lying bush and dead-leaf litter + 45 degree heat.

+ thunder + wind

dontcloseyoureyes · 09-02-2009, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by NZTailender

+ thunder + wind

Yeah, generally need a strong wind.

Top_Cat · 09-02-2009, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by pasag

There were total fire bans on the day and no one in their right mind would be having a BBQ at the time. Though some of the fires were light deliberately.

The media and politicians certainly think so. I have my doubts, myself. There might have been some of that going on but I don't think it's as widespread a practice as some would believe. Personally, firebugs are a rather convenient explanation for people in power to latch on to.

NZTailender · 09-02-2009, 08:08 PM

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Yeah, generally need a strong wind.

Yeah. Also a lot of people think these fires are preventable from starting...simply not the case.
Most of them start in remote national park from lightning strikes, and then by force of strong winds and a completely dry surrounding do they became massive and engulf everything in it's path.

pasag · 09-02-2009, 08:18 PM

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The media and politicians certainly think so. I have my doubts, myself. There might have been some of that going on but I don't think it's as widespread a practice as some would believe. Personally, firebugs are a rather convenient explanation for people in power to latch on to.

Yeah, I agree, that's why I especially said 'some'.

pasag · 09-02-2009, 08:20 PM

Even a week out we all knew there would be pretty bad bushfires on Saturday and that people were going to be killed, but no one expected it to be of this magnitude.

Top_Cat · 09-02-2009, 08:38 PM

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Even a week out we all knew there would be pretty bad bushfires on Saturday and that people were going to be killed, but no one expected it to be of this magnitude.

No-one other than the fire fighters, who had a fair idea of what was coming. There were plenty of 'conditions are set to be as bad if not worse than Ash Wednesday' noises emanating from the firies before it hit.

Mind you, for mine, a lot of the deaths are the direct result of the whole 'stay if you can but if you decide to go, go early' ethos which has been around for decades. In a situation like that, there should only be one serious option; just go. Anyone who stays should be told they're on their own (which, when the fire hits, they essentially are anyway).

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