Only God (or Devil) knows the intricate ways the mind and heart works

Precambrian · 19-01-2009, 12:32 PM

What else can explain this?

WARNING - Contains some troubling information.

krkode · 19-01-2009, 12:45 PM

Although I will never understand peoples' reasons for doing the things they do, I'm a firm believer in government (or society for that matter) staying out of peoples' bedroom lives. (Assuming lives aren't being harmed.)

That said, sexual feelings aside, the couple should be considerate to the children they have (or might have). There's a perfectly good scientific reason why close relatives should not procreate.

Uppercut · 19-01-2009, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by krkode

That said, sexual feelings aside, the couple should be considerate to the children they have (or might have). There's a perfectly good scientific reason why close relatives should not procreate.

That's been challenged (in the case of two cousins particularly) in recent times. Besides, it's nowhere near the danger of two disabled people procreating. Should we tell them they aren't allowed to either?

I'm in favour of calling it "their business" and thinking of it never again.

krkode · 19-01-2009, 01:16 PM

Two cousins does reduce the risk, sure, compared to two siblings or a parent-child couple. In fact, first cousin (or uncle-niece) marriages are (or used to be) quite common in India.

Besides, I didn't say it had to be made illegal. I just said it was something to consider. I'm totally hands off with respect to these matters.

And what do you mean by "disabled"?

Precambrian · 19-01-2009, 01:20 PM

From Wikipedia entry on Incest

The overall consequences of these diverging effects depends in part on the size of the population. In small populations, as long as children born with heritable birth defects die before they reproduce, the ultimate effect of inbreeding will be to decrease the frequency of defective genes in the population; over time the gene pool will be healthier. In larger populations, however, it is more likely that large numbers of carriers will survive and mate, leading to more constant rates of birth defects

silentstriker · 19-01-2009, 02:08 PM

That's a very iffy line you're pulling there, if you go down that path. I can point to many heritable conditions, both mental and physical, that are being propagated by two people choosing to have children, the net effect of which is the overall 'degradation' of 'good genes' in the human population. You'd have to deny them too.

To me, what goes on between two willing adults is their business.

Uppercut · 19-01-2009, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by silentstriker

That's a very iffy line you're pulling there, if you go down that path. I can point to many heritable conditions, both mental and physical, that are being propagated by two people choosing to have children, the net effect of which is the overall 'degradation' of 'good genes' in the human population. You'd have to deny them too.

Yeah, spot on. Also good work on not bringing Godwin's Law into effect on the topic's first page.

Precambrian · 19-01-2009, 06:51 PM

What is Godwin's Law?

Top_Cat · 19-01-2009, 06:55 PM

Fair bet the outrage would be less if they were both hot.

Precambrian · 19-01-2009, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Top_Cat

Fair bet the outrage would be less if they were both hot.

Like this?

How we fell in love, by the brother and sister who grew up apart and met in their 20s | Mail Online

I read that Pharaohs practised it, by marrying brother to sister.

duffer · 19-01-2009, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Top_Cat

Fair bet the outrage would be less if they were both hot.

Heh, imagine if the daughter was hot and the bloke was the same fat slob we see there?

Either way I remember watching this episode at the time. Itstl, the cooments on the ninemsn article related to this were an incredible read. Probably been purged by now.

duffer · 19-01-2009, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Precambrian

Like this?

How we fell in love, by the brother and sister who grew up apart and met in their 20s | Mail Online

I read that Pharaohs practised it, by marrying brother to sister.

The bloke looks inbred, the daughter isn't hot.

Burgey · 19-01-2009, 07:18 PM

When I linked into this thread, the ad I got at the top of the page was "The Story of Satan", which given the thread title, was kind of appropriate I thought.

As for the article itself, I found it relatively boring.

duffer · 19-01-2009, 07:33 PM

C'mon now Burgey be niece

Burgey · 19-01-2009, 08:05 PM

Aunt you meant to be at work?

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19-01-2009, 12:45 PM	#2 (permalink)
krkode State Captain Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: USA Posts: 1,776	Although I will never understand peoples' reasons for doing the things they do, I'm a firm believer in government (or society for that matter) staying out of peoples' bedroom lives. (Assuming lives aren't being harmed.) That said, sexual feelings aside, the couple should be considerate to the children they have (or might have). There's a perfectly good scientific reason why close relatives should not procreate.

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krkode State Captain Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: USA Posts: 1,776	Two cousins does reduce the risk, sure, compared to two siblings or a parent-child couple. In fact, first cousin (or uncle-niece) marriages are (or used to be) quite common in India. Besides, I didn't say it had to be made illegal. I just said it was something to consider. I'm totally hands off with respect to these matters. And what do you mean by "disabled"?

19-01-2009, 01:20 PM	#5 (permalink)
Precambrian Banned Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Rahmaniverse Posts: 7,358	From Wikipedia entry on Incest The overall consequences of these diverging effects depends in part on the size of the population. In small populations, as long as children born with heritable birth defects die before they reproduce, the ultimate effect of inbreeding will be to decrease the frequency of defective genes in the population; over time the gene pool will be healthier. In larger populations, however, it is more likely that large numbers of carriers will survive and mate, leading to more constant rates of birth defects

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Precambrian Banned Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Rahmaniverse Posts: 7,358	What is Godwin's Law?

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