Last edited by Prince EWS; 22-06-2011 at 11:47 PM.
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I think white people do get accused of racism more than other races - partly because of people like the ones posting on this page and partly for historical reasons. I got 100% on a sourced based General Studies (lol) paper at AS Level that tackled the topic of whether white people were intrinsically racist by refuting sources and stating that to label an entire race as racist is in itself racist. I understand the frustration people can feel when someone plays the racist card in an argument when someone hasn't been racist - in fact a CW poster did it to me not long back, and it's something I have discussed with you off forum as well.
That being said, I think the sentiment expressed in the title alone is completely unnecessary. Proactively bemoaning the fact that white people are sometimes labelled racist is only going to breed hate. It's not even like the page provides a trigger event, where someone has been labelled racist perhaps unfairly. It's just a thinly veiled excuse to be openly racist and post BNP videos under the guise of being treated unfairly. It's like if Facebook were to delete that page, all its members can go, "See! Point proven. Poor discriminated white men FML" and probably take their hate to a new level.
As an aside, I was surprised by the number of females posting on that page. When I used to buy lads mags they always used to have surveys and **** that said racism was the thing that put women off men second most (farting was always first).
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I agree that the page was unnecessary, likely to make the situation worse, undesirable to join and an inevitable hotspot for genuinely racist comments and beliefs (which is what my rant was about) but I don't think the sentiment is actually wrong as such. I wouldn't label someone as racist merely because they'd joined it because although the whole thing seems pretty cringe-worthy because of the kind of people who do join those groups, I still think it'd be possible to like the page as a result of a conservative colourblindness viewpoint.That being said, I think the sentiment expressed in the title alone is completely unnecessary. Proactively bemoaning the fact that white people are sometimes labelled racist is only going to breed hate. It's not even like the page provides a trigger event, where someone has been labelled racist perhaps unfairly. It's just a thinly veiled excuse to be openly racist and post BNP videos under the guise of being treated unfairly. It's like if Facebook were to delete that page, all its members can go, "See! Point proven. Poor discriminated white men FML" and probably take their hate to a new level.
All the racists hopping on board at every opportunity is why the anti-affirmative action, anti-political correctness groups etc will never gain any traction or be taken seriously. If I started up a Facebook page outlining my views on affirmative action, it'd be hopping mad with racists and end up precisely like the page you linked. The exact same thing would happen if I started a political party based on those ideals - all the racist morons would flock to it and take it over. Would it make me racist for starting it up? Or just naiive for expecting any different?
Na´ve and that's what I'm getting at.what's the point? Even if the page I linked to was started with honest intentions, or as a pisstake like Jack expected, it's going to end up that way isn't it?
And you know I agree with you that the sentiment the title expresses (in terms of white people getting labelled racists more often) can be understood in some circumstances. This group doesn't express any such ideals which is a reason why I am very much of the opinion that its intentions were not honourable.
If you wanted to start a page for your own ideals, you can make it request to join (can have a quick glance at other pages and groups a person belongs to, there are plenty of 'get out of my shop! Get out of my country, ****!' groups that tell you plenty about a person) or moderate it so it doesn't become a cesspit. Here at CW, if an Ind-Pak thread turns into a hate-filled Kashimir flame war, you lot sort it out. You don't sit back and say 'well that's what happens when India and Pakistan play each other.'
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On the same sort of theme, I'm now seeing a facebook page floating around my friends relating to banning the burqa.
All the arguments along the lines of "they've come to our country so they should dress like Aussies" and other stuff like that. Lots of swearing and rambling about how Islam isn't a valid religion and its 'Un-Australian' .etc
So yeah, why are some people such ****s?
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