Music discussion thread

[nightprowler10]

Lindsay.

Oh sorry, I thought we were doing favorite B*witched.

[Agent TBY]

Paul. Anyone who can sing while playing the bass is awesome.

[roseboy64]

All of them.

[BoyBrumby]

Paul. Anyone who can sing while playing the bass is awesome.

Not quite anyone:

[Matteh]

Some of them are still pretty decent...

[Swervy]

For every Working Class Hero he also gave us a Beautiful Boy or the hideous testament to banality that is Imagine.

I am trying to think about what exactly is wrong with 'Beautiful Boy'...good song IMO. Solo Lennon did do some crap though.

Do you not think that 'Imagine' has simply been overplayed? I can't be arsed with it, but I am not sure that it isn't that it gets drummed into over the years

[GIMH]

Think this thread has largely untapped potential. I've just been watching Pop Britannia, which this week featured the 60s, so I thought I'd bung out an old chestnut for discussion: who's your favourite Beatle & why?

I'm a Lennon man myself, although not unreservedly so. His work with the fabs generally kicked more at the limitations of the pop song format than Paul's did & in doing so pushed the boundaries of the art back. It isn't much of a stretch to say that without A Day In The Life or Lucy... there would've been no prog rock. Although whether one considers this a blessing or not is another debate in itself.

Paul probably had the better ear for a pop tune, but always seemed to be moving towards the centre of the establishment, which the spikier JWL never did. I'd like to imagine Lennon would've turned a knighthood down. I do think Lennon's post-Beatles output is vastly overrated tho. For every Working Class Hero he also gave us a Beautiful Boy or the hideous testament to banality that is Imagine. It's true he never gave us a Frog Chorus, but there's every possibility that but for Chapman's extreme intervention he could well have done.

Anyway, that's my thoughts. Who's the fabbest of the four for you?

Worth its own thread this discussion.

Anyhow, Paul for mine. Don't know why, my favourite couple of Beatles songs are probably Lennon tunes, but in general I think i just about prefer Macca's stuff. Think he gets grossly underrepresented sometime when people talk about Lennon being the innovator. You say that without A Day in the Life and Lucy in the... there might not have been a prog rock, but whose idea was Sgt. Peppers? And the second side of Abbey Road?

Lennon started as the stronger Beatles but from 66/67 he was becoming disinterested and McCartney (and Harrison) kept the group going, this is when some of the best stuff was released.

His solo material is a bit hit and miss, there is some very poor stuff out there, but also amidst it some good stuff, I still haven't purchased his McCartney album but there are some very good songs on there. He did a few decent tunes in the wake of Britpop as well, undoubtedly inspired by the Oasis-led interest in The Beatles.

He was also a very witty lyricist in his day, and of all The Beatles he stayed truest to his roots. Lennon was I think a US citizen by the time of his death, Harrison had a very transatlantic accent and Ringo sounds a bit posh, there is nothing wrong with any of this but as a Merseysider you have to love Macca and the way he still spends so much time round here

[Perm]

****, just did a bit of GNR searching and found that Chinese Democracy has an official release date of September 26th..sure it will be postponed but as far as I can remember over my 7 years of looking this up online I've never got an actual official date...not to self...take that day of work and find a quiet room to listen to it...be underwhelmed as 10 years of anticipation can never ever live up to what you want it to be

Have heard a couple songs from Chinese Democracy, fairly rubbish. I wouldn't bother with it, it's not even the real GnR.

[James90]

John.

[BoyBrumby]

I am trying to think about what exactly is wrong with 'Beautiful Boy'...good song IMO. Solo Lennon did do some crap though.

Do you not think that 'Imagine' has simply been overplayed? I can't be arsed with it, but I am not sure that it isn't that it gets drummed into over the years

Beautiful Boy is a bit comfy, don't you think? Pretty enough, but a bit of a middle aged song by his standards. I wouldn't rank it amongst his finest work anyway.

WRT Imagine, I think you're right to some extent. Repetition has paled it quite a lot, but whenever I hear it I can't help but think that if John had've known it'd be so ubiquitous he'd have spent a bit longer on the lyrics. He couples "try" with "sky", "do" with "too" & "can" with "man"; you can almost hear the rhyming dictionary being turned.

Worth its own thread this discussion.

Anyhow, Paul for mine. Don't know why, my favourite couple of Beatles songs are probably Lennon tunes, but in general I think i just about prefer Macca's stuff. Think he gets grossly underrepresented sometime when people talk about Lennon being the innovator. You say that without A Day in the Life and Lucy in the... there might not have been a prog rock, but whose idea was Sgt. Peppers? And the second side of Abbey Road?

Lennon started as the stronger Beatles but from 66/67 he was becoming disinterested and McCartney (and Harrison) kept the group going, this is when some of the best stuff was released.

His solo material is a bit hit and miss, there is some very poor stuff out there, but also amidst it some good stuff, I still haven't purchased his McCartney album but there are some very good songs on there. He did a few decent tunes in the wake of Britpop as well, undoubtedly inspired by the Oasis-led interest in The Beatles.

He was also a very witty lyricist in his day, and of all The Beatles he stayed truest to his roots. Lennon was I think a US citizen by the time of his death, Harrison had a very transatlantic accent and Ringo sounds a bit posh, there is nothing wrong with any of this but as a Merseysider you have to love Macca and the way he still spends so much time round here

I don't think he was, if memory serves it was why he didn't leave the US from about 1971 onwards, because he was worried about getting back in what with his various "un-American" activities. Nixon's regime certainly spent a long time trying to deport him in the early-mid 70s.

As for McCartney staying close to his roots, I wouldn't have said East Sussex was that close tbh.

[Top_Cat]

George Martin.

[pasag]

He had a green card, but wasn't a citizen.

[pasag]

Have heard a couple songs from Chinese Democracy, fairly rubbish. I wouldn't bother with it, it's not even the real GnR.

The Blues is fantastic.

[pasag]

Beautiful Boy is a bit comfy, don't you think? Pretty enough, but a bit of a middle aged song by his standards. I wouldn't rank it amongst his finest work anyway.

I think it's grown in stature since his death, the lyrics 'I can hardly wait, to see you to come of age', are particularly haunting.

[BoyBrumby]

George.

Because....?