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    Quote Originally Posted by GIMH View Post
    Mate of mine had arranged an event and got them on the bill. Small venue in Liverpool, in June. So I imagine I'll be going along and seeing them out of support for my mate.
    Who else is playing - is it the Liverpool Calling Festival? They will put on a good show - saw them the other week and they are still awesome live - the new album hasn't really grabbed me though but their first album is still a classic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by superkingdave View Post
    Who else is playing - is it the Liverpool Calling Festival? They will put on a good show - saw them the other week and they are still awesome live - the new album hasn't really grabbed me though but their first album is still a classic.
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    On the topic of Steve Albini, he wrote a very interesting article about the music industry a few years ago, its a must read,
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby View Post
    Anyhoo, new topic: bands you've changed your mind over.

    I don't shyte you liked when you were nae but a bairn, but rather stuff you used to hate as an adult and have warmed to or bands you've loved but lost.

    One from the former for me: Keane. I used to be mildly contemptuous of their piano-heavy take on epic indie (aside: "epic indie" is a massive oxymoron, as "indie" was initially the antithesis of the epic dinosaur rock and overproduced 80s synth pop, but I digress) as it seemed a little polite and their singer has one of those big, pudgy, punchable, posh public-school pusses (see also: David Cameron), but since I discovered they were cricket fans and picked up Hopes & Fears for a couple of quid on the off chance I've found out there's rather more depth to them than I gave 'em credit for.
    Can also add Alice in Chains to this.

    I never really quite warmed to them for some decidely unmusical reasons: they were grunge's ugly metal step-children, Layne Staley was just a wee bit too much of the smack-addled ****-up (although as a Nirvana fan this displays Olympic levels of hypocrisy on my part), "Jerry Cantrell" sounds a ****-kicker's name, "Alice in Chains" conjures up images of dodgy S+M & the cover of Dirt seemed to confirm this.

    However I picked up their best of for like £3 last year and I've gradually fallen for them hook, line and sinker. Now of the opinion Cantrell is something of a minor genius. His music has a lot more depth than I ever gave it credit for.
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    Yeah been listening to heaps of 70's and 80's alternative for some ungodly reason*. Velvet Underground and Husker Du have made it onto my iP00d. Crazy times.

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    What's your take on the Huskers, T_C? I've occasionally championed them on CW previously.

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    Well, it's actually a massive mental adjustment for me to listen to guys like that. The stuff I've been listening to/playing for the last few year is so heavily groove-based so precision timing is in order because without that lock-in, no-one hits the dflo. Guys like that, seems to basically be about this sprawling, adolescent, unfocussed wall of energy.

    Still adjusting but I see the appeal. Would be fun to play that stuff and just go nuts on stage. Definitely more in-depth lyrics than, say, funk. I mean, it's not deep philosophy, just raw expression of base emotions so subtle it ain't. Can dig how disaffected it all is.
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    Yeah, they can from hardcore punk beginnings (debut album Land Speed Record is just that; ugly as a nailbomb in an orphanage) but they gradually welded a pop sensibility to hardcore anger and brevity.

    I think their last two albums (Candy Apple Grey & Warehouse) are ripe for a sensitive remastering too as I think the drums sound a little flat in the production, which might be a result of Mould and Hart basically hating the guts of each other by then and with the latter being the drummer the former may have wanted to undercut his rival songwriter.

    Their posthumous live album The Living End has a more fleshed out drum sound.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby View Post
    Can also add Alice in Chains to this.

    I never really quite warmed to them for some decidely unmusical reasons: they were grunge's ugly metal step-children, Layne Staley was just a wee bit too much of the smack-addled ****-up (although as a Nirvana fan this displays Olympic levels of hypocrisy on my part), "Jerry Cantrell" sounds a ****-kicker's name, "Alice in Chains" conjures up images of dodgy S+M & the cover of Dirt seemed to confirm this.

    However I picked up their best of for like £3 last year and I've gradually fallen for them hook, line and sinker. Now of the opinion Cantrell is something of a minor genius. His music has a lot more depth than I ever gave it credit for.
    Yesssss Brumby, what a ****ing guy you are.

    AIC are so good. Cantrell is/was the brains behind the outfit. Layne Staley had the insane voice but Cantrell is so brilliant in his own right (some of his solo stuff is actually pretty good tbf, though not all of it). Looking forward to their new album in a couple of weeks. It's not vintage AIC these days by any means but still awesome. Stone is a fantastic song.

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    I love Alice in Chains. It's a rekindled love lately.

    - Brilliant harmonies.
    - Cantrell is a genius.
    - Rhythm section is amazing.
    - The bass lines are always really cool.

    The merge of metal/grunge really suits where my musical tastes were 20 years ago. Good memories!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BackFootPunch View Post
    Yesssss Brumby, what a ****ing guy you are.

    AIC are so good. Cantrell is/was the brains behind the outfit. Layne Staley had the insane voice but Cantrell is so brilliant in his own right (some of his solo stuff is actually pretty good tbf, though not all of it). Looking forward to their new album in a couple of weeks. It's not vintage AIC these days by any means but still awesome. Stone is a fantastic song.
    Being a bit of a completist **** who consumes everything a band and/or artist releases where I can I took delivery of Black Gives Way to Blue today. It's only my first listen, obvz, but it sounds on a different plane from Degradation Trip, of which nothing really snagged on me when I heard it.

    Guess it shows that music is more than just put talented musicians in a studio; on paper an album from Cantrell, Bob "Metallica" Trujillo & Puffy "Faith No More" Bordin sounds like a great idea and it's not bad, but it's not quite classic Cantrell either.

    DuVall sounds a heck of a lot like Staley too.



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