My last political question for a while.

cover drive man · 06-04-2008, 07:38 AM

The state or the individual? Personally I find myself a bit of a fascist when it comes to social politics. But I'm interested in the response of certain members. So for the first time in one of my polls (Until Richard finds one from about a year ago with two responses) There is no irrelevant option. So which is more important the state or the individual?

Richard · 06-04-2008, 07:47 AM

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So for the first time in one of my polls There is no irrelevant option.

This one for instance.

Agent TBY · 06-04-2008, 07:47 AM

No state without the individuals.

cover drive man · 06-04-2008, 08:03 AM

So if all people should be given equal rights why should a pregnant for the 6th time to 5 fathers 53 year old binge drinker who has never worked be given the same rights as a 52 year old carpenter who has worked his whole life to the best of their ability. I bielieve people should get what they deserve.

Agent TBY · 06-04-2008, 08:06 AM

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So if all people should be given equal rights why should a pregnant for the 6th time to 5 fathers 53 year old binge drinker who has never worked be given the same rights as a 52 year old carpenter who has worked his whole life to the best of their ability. I bielieve people should get what they deserve.

You are Fascist how, exactly?

Goughy · 06-04-2008, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by cover drive man

So if all people should be given equal rights why should a pregnant for the 6th time to 5 fathers 53 year old binge drinker who has never worked be given the same rights as a 52 year old carpenter who has worked his whole life to the best of their ability. I bielieve people should get what they deserve.

One would assume that his work was not done for free for the glory and good of the State. Rather that he was paid for that work and that was both his incentive and reward. He already has his reward and reason for working.

cover drive man · 06-04-2008, 08:20 AM

Looking at it from a leaders point of view I bielieve that the more a country moves forward people will move with it.

andmark · 06-04-2008, 08:34 AM

I think Fascism personally. But It said on a politiacal compass test I was Liberal.

GIMH · 06-04-2008, 08:34 AM

I am neither liberal nor fascist...

silentstriker · 06-04-2008, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by cover drive man

So if all people should be given equal rights why should a pregnant for the 6th time to 5 fathers 53 year old binge drinker who has never worked be given the same rights as a 52 year old carpenter who has worked his whole life to the best of their ability. I bielieve people should get what they deserve.

What does this mean exactly? What rights do you want to deny them?

Jamee999 · 06-04-2008, 08:59 AM

Who actually says "You know, I think I'm going to be a fascist. Discriminating and persecuting people, sounds fun to me."?

Jamee999 · 06-04-2008, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Richard

This one for instance.

"Rnb".

Richard · 06-04-2008, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Jamee999

Who actually says "You know, I think I'm going to be a fascist. Discriminating and persecuting people, sounds fun to me."?

Full-stop followed by question-mark.

cpr · 06-04-2008, 09:30 AM

Completely irrelevent question for mine. Cant disseminate politics down to such a black and white divide.

Besides, Fascism was all about the people, massive public support given by the Fascist party in 1920's Italy, or are you confusing Fascism with Nazi-ism, because they are two completely different things (something that REALLY winds me up, Fascism was actually a Socialist idea, but History has just lumped it with the uber right Nazi racists because its easier)

And liberalism, like the glorious Labour government we live under now, is all about the people isnt it. Thats why we have a privitised NHS, a rail network that hasnt moved since 1998, and you try selling a house without having to pay for the completely pointless, hated by everyone bar Gordon Brown, £300+ a time HIPS pack.

Find me someone who can stand up and say 'I'm a Fascist through and through' or 'I'm a Communist through and through' and I'll show you a person with **** all knowledge of politics.

Goughy · 06-04-2008, 10:41 AM

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Find me someone who can stand up and say 'I'm a Fascist through and through' or 'I'm a Communist through and through' and I'll show you a person with **** all knowledge of politics.

Amazingly Ive run into a few and they all seem to have a similar profile. Ive met them all in pubs in quite distant places from California to South Africa and they have all been Scottish and in their 50s or 60s and done nothing but whinge.

Ive met about 5 people that claim to be communists and all have fitted that profile. Make of that what you will

View Poll Results: Are you a...
Liberal (Individual is more important)	8	72.73%
Fascist (State more important)	3	27.27%
Voters: 11. You may not vote on this poll

06-04-2008, 07:38 AM	#1 (permalink)
cover drive man International Captain Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Liverpool, England Posts: 7,049	My last political question for a while. The state or the individual? Personally I find myself a bit of a fascist when it comes to social politics. But I'm interested in the response of certain members. So for the first time in one of my polls (Until Richard finds one from about a year ago with two responses) There is no irrelevant option. So which is more important the state or the individual? __________________ Everyone wants to change the world, noone wants to change himself. -Tolstoy Last edited by cover drive man; 06-04-2008 at 07:42 AM.

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Agent TBY International Captain Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: North Point Posts: 6,568	No state without the individuals. __________________ orz

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andmark International Debutant Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Taking 39 steps Posts: 2,741	I think Fascism personally. But It said on a politiacal compass test I was Liberal. __________________ Well the Irish did it on St Patrick's day Rip Fardin Qayyumi, Bob Woolmer and Craig. No offence Neil "No good thing ever dies." Andy Dufresne. The Shawshank Redemption. "Don't interupt the emeny when they're making a mistake" Napoleon

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GIMH Eternal Optimist Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Shake my tree where's the apple for me? Posts: 43,617	I am neither liberal nor fascist... __________________ Watch out, for as soon as it pleases them they’ll send you out to protect their gold in wars whose weapons, rapidly developed by servile scientists, will become more and more deadly until they can with a flick of the finger tear a million of you to pieces RIP Craigos. A true CW legend. You will be missed.

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cover drive man International Captain Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Liverpool, England Posts: 7,049	So if all people should be given equal rights why should a pregnant for the 6th time to 5 fathers 53 year old binge drinker who has never worked be given the same rights as a 52 year old carpenter who has worked his whole life to the best of their ability. I bielieve people should get what they deserve.

06-04-2008, 08:20 AM	#7 (permalink)
cover drive man International Captain Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Liverpool, England Posts: 7,049	Looking at it from a leaders point of view I bielieve that the more a country moves forward people will move with it.

06-04-2008, 08:59 AM	#11 (permalink)
Jamee999 Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Leicestershire, UK Posts: 15,068	Who actually says "You know, I think I'm going to be a fascist. Discriminating and persecuting people, sounds fun to me."? __________________ Or something. RIP Fardin Qayyumi (AKA "cricket player"; "Bob"), 1/11/1990 - 15/4/2006

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