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    Should law be a national curriculum subject?

    Should it? I think yes, replace a pointless lesson (if there's any) for it.
    (Sorry to bring this law back up )
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    Nope. Specialised stuff like this blows before at the very least A Levels level.
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    Citizenship and PSHE are meant to do this.
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    I don't think it's really necessary, I think it's fairly common knowledge which activities are illegal - most of it is pretty much common sense, and is in a way taught in school anyway with similar principles being reflected in basic school rules. I don't think there are many cases of people doing things that are against the law and not having any idea that what they're doing is illegal (except in the case of the cultural defence, but that's a bit complicated).

    And torts, contract, public, property etc are all too specialised and in my opinion too complicated for the school curriculum.

    I do however think there should be more done to inform people of their rights in regards to things like police questioning and asking to search your property. It's amazing how many people don't know. Not sure school is the right place for that though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by andmark View Post
    Should it? I think yes, replace a pointless lesson (if there's any) for it.
    (Sorry to bring this law back up )
    What you have to think of is what about the other 95% Of kids who dont give a **** about law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matteh View Post
    Nope. Specialised stuff like this blows before at the very least A Levels level.
    Yeah, I remember doing Alevel law, and someone asked if it was possible to do it at GCSE. Apparently you can but it's just awful.
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    GCSE Law (PDF file). I tried to read it but couldn't keep my eyes open long enough.

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    I study law at University, and did the subject Legal Studies in my final two years of high school.

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    If you mean teaching children about the law, then yes, I'm all for that, but it's kind of covered in Citizenship and stuff like that I guess. Although I don't actually know, I never did anything like that at GCSE.

    If you mean teaching them Law itself, as in how to be a lawyer, then that's not really worth doing until you get to higher education.

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    Teach them language before you teach them MathS & Science, youth of today can't speak proper like

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    Maths, awe and wonder. lollol

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    Even Law at A Level isn't really encouraged for people wanted to read Law at uni, so I couldn't see the point. Too specialist a subject.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Ed_ View Post
    I do however think there should be more done to inform people of their rights in regards to things like police questioning and asking to search your property. It's amazing how many people don't know. Not sure school is the right place for that though.
    I think it's the perfect place, and I think it's crucial that people know this. Only recently (during the Tuhoe terror raids) the police were abusing their power by "encouraging" anyone who passed through the area to submit to having their photograph taken, and in some cases to searches. The only thing the police are entitled to from you is your name and address.

    I also think that some knowledge of basic legal terms and their meanings is required to foster greater confidence in the courts. For example, having yesterday read a public forum on the NZ Herald website about the Scott Watson case, it's evident that very few people even know what constitutes circumstantial evidence.

    This stuff should probably be taught in social studies though, as part of a broader curriculum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 16 tins of Spam View Post
    I think it's the perfect place, and I think it's crucial that people know this. Only recently (during the Tuhoe terror raids) the police were abusing their power by "encouraging" anyone who passed through the area to submit to having their photograph taken, and in some cases to searches. The only thing the police are entitled to from you is your name and address.

    I also think that some knowledge of basic legal terms and their meanings is required to foster greater confidence in the courts. For example, having yesterday read a public forum on the NZ Herald website about the Scott Watson case, it's evident that very few people even know what constitutes circumstantial evidence.

    This stuff should probably be taught in social studies though, as part of a broader curriculum.
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