The British Politics Thread

[sledger]

Poor old Gordon.

[Pothas]

Think Gordon has done fine to be honest, he is the only one that has a record to defend but he has far from been humiliated.

[fredfertang]

Originally Posted by Pothas

Think Gordon has done fine to be honest, he is the only one that has a record to defend but he has far from been humiliated.

Agree with this - am surprised though - Cameron has missed an opportunity but then he's chosen a very difficult path with his spending cuts

[sledger]

Haha, I haven't actually watched. But pleased that it sounds like he has done ok.

[Pothas]

Right over to BBC do not want to have to endure ITV 'analysis.'

[PhoenixFire]

Gordon comes across as the only one who actually understands the problem that we're faced with, as regards to the economy and has the experience to sort it out. I wouldn't trust Dave to sort it out TBH.

[sledger]

I wouldn't trust Dave to do a lot of things to be honest, nor Clegg.

[Neil Pickup]

I didn't particularly like Labour telling us about everything they were going to do, particularly with relevance to the House of Lords and parliamentary reform. It struck as rather empty given the inaction of the last 13 years.

[sledger]

Originally Posted by Neil Pickup

I didn't particularly like Labour telling us about everything they were going to do, particularly with relevance to the House of Lords and parliamentary reform. It struck as rather empty given the inaction of the last 13 years.

Haha, yes, the Labour Party Election Manifesto 97, an oldun, but a goodun.

[Neil Pickup]

ITV poll results - "who won the debate?" - Brown 20, Cameron 26, Clegg 43

Interesting!

[Scaly piscine]

Originally Posted by PhoenixFire

Gordon comes across as the only one who actually understands the problem that we're faced with, as regards to the economy and has the experience to sort it out. I wouldn't trust Dave to sort it out TBH.

Yes Gordon has the experience of doing things wrong and putting us in this situation where the country is saddled with huge debt. So he ****ed it up he's the man to sort it out is he? Don't see the logic.

[PhoenixFire]

I can't really be bothered arguing about politics, it always seems to be one of those things that ends up just being a circular argument full of bull**** flying about. That and I know nearly enough about the economics at the heart of it. All I'm saying is that I'd rather have Brown running the economy than Dave.

[Manee]

Clegg was the clear winner for me. Cameron was far too simplistic whereas he has a lot of very interesting policies, and Clegg really drove home the point that he has numbers worked out for his policies, he is separate from the expenses scandal because no Lib Dems were found to be abusing the system and the common sense approaches of not renewing trident and having a £10,000 income tax threshold.

Really was a tough job for Brown to put up with so much criticism and the cries of 'why not in the last 13 years, why change now?' (though it is a good point, it is clear that it was difficult to push through so much change when the party do not support you and the public do not either) but I do not think that he, nor any of the others, embarassed themselves. It was thoroughly professional all round, except for the ending, of course.

[Manee]

Originally Posted by Scaly piscine

Yes Gordon has the experience of doing things wrong and putting us in this situation where the country is saddled with huge debt. So he ****ed it up he's the man to sort it out is he? Don't see the logic.

I agree with this. This nonsense about Brown being some economical genius really is unfounded, he didn't even study economics at university (). All he has to his name is an eventually poor run as chancellor, that some argue helped lead us into an eventual recession through the massaging of a speculative bubble.

[Manee]

Originally Posted by Neil Pickup

ITV poll results - "who won the debate?" - Brown 20, Cameron 26, Clegg 43

Interesting!

The question is, why will these results never, ever, in a million years, turn into a Lib Dem majority in the Commons. Has the establishment not embarassed itself enough, have the two parties not shown themselves equally incompetant in their respective runs? I'm still undecided, but there is a problem where Clegg can outperform the other two and still not have a chance of becoming PM.