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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Nationaux View Post
    Happy that Galloway won. Great guy.
    Fail to see what he's ever done other than opportunistic whinging and demagoguery tbh. Classic naive far-leftist if ever I saw one.

    I mean seriously, the man 'saluted' Saddam Hussein for 'his courage'. Great guy? Seriously?

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    A socialist would be a good idea, 'cept there aren't any of course - happen Dennis Skinner would fancy the job?
    Haha, Dennis is quality. I think the party's still a socialist party in principle though, but with a more modern approach.
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    And now Galloway's aiding the Syrian regime by passing a convoy to Gaza via Syria. As one of our British Syrian activists said the man is 'a self centred mouthpiece for the tyrants' as well as an egotistical fraud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cover drive man View Post
    Fail to see what he's ever done other than opportunistic whinging and demagoguery tbh. Classic naive far-leftist if ever I saw one.
    Opportunistic whinging? Is that the new name for bringing up the fact that we've invaded and occupied two countries and killed a few hundred thousand people?

    Because we have better things to be worrying about, like the economy. God forbid some white people lose their jobs and have to live comfortably for free on benefits. Won't he just shut his mouth about all those murdered Iraqi women and children, hasn't he realised we're all tired of hearing about that stuff?

    Jesus christ, I feel like everyone's moral compass just turns to **** at the sheer mention of Galloway. Suddenly shaking hands with a bad man is worthy of universal self-righteous judgment, but starting a horrendously violent war for no reason is nothing, really, and anyone who brings it up is just having a whinge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cover drive man View Post
    Fail to see what he's ever done other than opportunistic whinging and demagoguery tbh. Classic naive far-leftist if ever I saw one.

    I mean seriously, the man 'saluted' Saddam Hussein for 'his courage'. Great guy? Seriously?



    Haha, Dennis is quality. I think the party's still a socialist party in principle though, but with a more modern approach.
    Wasn't that back when Saddam was an ally and everyone from the President to Rumsfeld was saluting his courage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uppercut View Post
    Opportunistic whinging? Is that the new name for bringing up the fact that we've invaded and occupied two countries and killed a few hundred thousand people?

    Because we have better things to be worrying about, like the economy. God forbid some white people lose their jobs and have to live comfortably for free on benefits. Won't he just shut his mouth about all those murdered Iraqi women and children, hasn't he realised we're all tired of hearing about that stuff?

    Jesus christ, I feel like everyone's moral compass just turns to **** at the sheer mention of Galloway. Suddenly shaking hands with a bad man is worthy of universal self-righteous judgment, but starting a horrendously violent war for no reason is nothing, really, and anyone who brings it up is just having a whinge.
    What's your alternative then? Sit back and let theocratic dictators slaughter millions of people because 'we shouldn't get involved'? I'll give you an example, in Afghanistan under the Taliban the punishment for homosexuality was death by method of burial alive. Aren't we obliged as people to stop atrocities like that? I find it annoying that people say we're 'sweeping it away'. Sweeping it away would be to have never have done anything in the first place, like Galloway recommended.


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    Wasn't that back when Saddam was an ally and everyone from the President to Rumsfeld was saluting his courage.
    No. It was long after the Kurdish genocide.

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    Moral imperative has been proven time and time again as an abysmal way to run foreign policy tbh. So often you end up causing even worse harm unless you're very, very careful.

    EDIT: It is also logically very difficult to distinguish from modern neoconservatism...
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    Quote Originally Posted by cover drive man View Post
    What's your alternative then? Sit back and let theocratic dictators slaughter millions of people because 'we shouldn't get involved'? I'll give you an example, in Afghanistan under the Taliban the punishment for homosexuality was death by method of burial alive. Aren't we obliged as people to stop atrocities like that? I find it annoying that people say we're 'sweeping it away'. Sweeping it away would be to have never have done anything in the first place, like Galloway recommended.




    No. It was long after the Kurdish genocide.
    And Saddam isn't the only one to have committed a genocide. What about Russia in Chechnia or China killing the Ughyars and Isreal in Palestine. But I don't see us invading these countries.

    And when you remove people like Asad and the Taliban some other **** will take their place. You are never going to change the mindset of the people in these countries. They don't think like you or me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spark View Post
    Moral imperative has been proven time and time again as an abysmal way to run foreign policy tbh. So often you end up causing even worse harm unless you're very, very careful.

    EDIT: It is also logically very difficult to distinguish from modern neoconservatism...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Nationaux View Post
    And Saddam isn't the only one to have committed a genocide. What about Russia in Chechnia or China killing the Ughyars and Isreal in Palestine. But I don't see us invading these countries.

    And when you remove people like Asad and the Taliban some other **** will take their place. You are never going to change the mindset of the people in these countries. They don't think like you or me.
    The fact that other countries have committed crimes is a piss poor excuse for saying Saddam Hussein shouldn't have been toppled. You're not going to let someone be killed in front of you with the excuse of 'there's other murders going on, why should I get involved?.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by cover drive man View Post
    Aren't we obliged as people to stop atrocities like that?
    no you are not...what moral authority do you have to interfere in another country's politics?
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    Depends upon whether or not you believe fundamental rights are universal or relative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anil View Post
    no you are not...what moral authority do you have to interfere in another country's politics?
    Seriously? Six million people are killed in the holocaust but we shouldn't have interfered in another country's politics? That's laughable.

    It's a globalised world. You can't abandon collective responsibility and let innocent people die.

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    And what about the innocents killed because of the war. More than a 100,000 in Iraq and countless in Afghanistan, not to mention the drone bombings still happening because a bunch of tribals are being confused as terrorists. Aren't those atrocities as well?

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    They aren't an act of genocide.



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