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Originally Posted by Pedro DelgadoOriginally Posted by Matt79
Whereas in your counter example the test of there being some form of reasonable grounds (as in the realistic threat of mass murder) for enacting the law is absent. Seems like a bit of a straw-man tbh.
GOOD OLD COLLINGWOOD - PREMIERS IN 2010Originally Posted by Irfan
Is Cam White, Is Good.
Freedom of thought and expression is the greatest good we have and will never be taken away by a mullah sitting in a cave. It will, however, be erased without second thought by western politicians backed by a frigthened electorate
And the people being imprisoned are always innocent, not literally, but legally, given that the basis of any judiciary has to be that a person is innocent until it is proved otherwise. In any case, if you have any solid reason to suspect that someone is involved in conspiracy to kill millions of people then you should really be able to find something to charge them with inside 40 days.
It's ridiculous that anti-terrorism laws have been used for things not at all to do with terrorism. For example, against Iceland in the banking crisis, the planned use during the olympics of the emergency stop-and-search without suspicion, and the surveilance of whether people use their wheely-bins correctly - and many many more things too. No wonder people are worried when they bring in more.
Looks like we will have a government before the end of the day, is going to be interesting to see how exactly how this coalition works out.
Cable for Chancellor. Any takers?
This was always the most likely result, Cameron has got one hell of a job on his hands, relationships are already strained between Conservatives and the Lib dems after these talks with Labour.
I just hope Labour get behind a new leader and get ready for the next election.
In the Netherlands, there's no such threshold and as a result, parties who poll roughly 0.8% of the vote get a seat in the 150-seat Second Chamber. There's some proper lunatics among them, from ultra-orthodox Christians who refuse to allow women to vote to animal-rights activists.
And you have a referendum coming up next year to decide whether you're going to keep PR, or go back to the first-past-the-post system....
I've spoken to a couple of Kiwis who're really looking forward to voting in this referendum, and getting back to the old Westminster style!
So Lib Dems meeting at 730 tonight, presumably to vote on the deal. At least we will know something soon (hopefully)
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