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Old 02-09-2010, 10:48 AM   #736 (permalink)
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Er...interesting.
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Old 02-09-2010, 10:53 AM   #737 (permalink)
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Go on put me out of my misery, was my point a load of rubbish?
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Old 02-09-2010, 11:26 AM   #738 (permalink)
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Sorry if I'm completely off the mark here, but the cat isn't alive and dead at the same time, it's either dead or alive depending on whether an atom decays. It's only fifty/fifty from our view isn't it? Like betting on red in roulette but not looking at the result. I'm probably completely off the mark here though.
It's occupies both the state of being dead and alive simultaneously until we observe it to be in just one of the states. Therefore the cat is both dead and alive until you open the box and see which state it's in.

I understand your point and it's quite hard to get your head around at first.
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Old 02-09-2010, 12:45 PM   #739 (permalink)
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Interesting, thanks.
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Old 02-09-2010, 12:46 PM   #740 (permalink)
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Probably a paradox though IMO.
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Old 02-09-2010, 12:49 PM   #741 (permalink)
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Sorry if I'm completely off the mark here, but the cat isn't alive and dead at the same time, it's either dead or alive depending on whether an atom decays. It's only fifty/fifty from our view isn't it? Like betting on red in roulette but not looking at the result. I'm probably completely off the mark here though.

Thought it was dependant on whether said sealed box had been filled with water first?
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It's occupies both the state of being dead and alive simultaneously until we observe it to be in just one of the states. Therefore the cat is both dead and alive until you open the box and see which state it's in.

In other words, he was talking testicles.....
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Old 02-09-2010, 02:42 PM   #744 (permalink)
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In other words, he was talking testicles.....
Haha well yes sort of, but what he said makes sense if you are looking at it from a purely intuitive point of view.
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FFS it's not meant to be taken literally. It was designed to illustrate the absurdity of some interpretations of quantum mechanics (e.g, the copenhagen interpretation).
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FFS it's not meant to be taken literally. It was designed to illustrate the absurdity of some interpretations of quantum mechanics (e.g, the copenhagen interpretation).
"FFS" is not an appropriate response, imo, considering just how many people think it is used as a genuine analogy for quantum mechanics, to be taken literally and seriously.
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Old 02-09-2010, 03:42 PM   #748 (permalink)
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Oi, this is supposed to be a funny thread, stop boring me with all this bollocks, all of you
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Yet more proof that nothing good can come out of science.
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"FFS" is not an appropriate response, imo, considering just how many people think it is used as a genuine analogy for quantum mechanics, to be taken literally and seriously.
It is when PF says it. The rest of you lot are beyond salvation, but I have hope for that kid.

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