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    In terms of western philosophers, i rate the impact of individuals in the following order:

    1. Neitzche
    2. Descartes
    3. Plato/Aristotle
    4. Kant
    5. Machiavelli
    6. Thales

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    Quote Originally Posted by C_C
    In terms of western philosophers, i rate the impact of individuals in the following order:

    1. Neitzche
    2. Descartes
    3. Plato/Aristotle
    4. Kant
    5. Machiavelli
    6. Thales
    No Utilitarianists?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matteh
    No Utilitarianists?
    Not really.
    Utilitarianist philosophy is almost exclusively eastern and far more profound in eastern schools than in the west.
    This list is essentially for western philosophers who came up with something remotely original or progressed a field well.


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    Quote Originally Posted by C_C
    Not really.
    Utilitarianist philosophy is almost exclusively eastern and far more profound in eastern schools than in the west.
    This list is essentially for western philosophers who came up with something remotely original or progressed a field well.

    Haha. I love your snobbish East>West.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NZTailender
    Haha. I love your snobbish East>West.
    Not snobbish, just plain facts. Philosophy is a huge subject. Some things the western philosophers were more developed at, some things, the eastern philosophers were more developed at. Utilitarian philosophy is where the west doesnt even scratch the surface compared to the east. Individualism is where the east doesnt even come close to the west.
    Just an example.
    Though i'd say in general, eastern philosophers- the emminent ones- were more comprehensive with their philosophical approach. Which is why philosophers like Buddha or Nagarjuna or Mahavira, Adi Shankara, etc. spawned off/revived religions while western philosophy was in general far more narrow in its focus, operating within the frameworks of religion until Kant came along.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C_C
    Not really.
    Utilitarianist philosophy is almost exclusively eastern and far more profound in eastern schools than in the west.
    This list is essentially for western philosophers who came up with something remotely original or progressed a field well.
    Hardly. Bentham? Mills?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby
    Hardly. Bentham? Mills?
    I didnt say they didnt exist- just that they are a lot more 'basic' and simplistic ideas on utilitarianism compared to utilitarianism in the east.
    I havnt read Mills but i've read Bentham- and i for one, dont think he even compares to Nagarjuna in utilitarianism philosophy-both in the scope and impact of it.
    Just like you wont find many eastern philosophers who'd match Neitzche in his individualism ideologies. Though ultimately you can call me biassed- i do follow a particular school of eastern philosophy/or try to loosely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby
    Hardly. Bentham? Mills?
    One is the greatest good for the greatest number.
    The other is greatest good for the greatest number if it's of a good quality.

    Can't remember enough of my AS level to remember which is which.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matteh
    One is the greatest good for the greatest number.
    The other is greatest good for the greatest number if it's of a good quality.

    Can't remember enough of my AS level to remember which is which.
    Wow. your school offered philosophy for AS/A level ? thats pretty neat!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steulen
    Schopenhauer owns them all

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    not a clue what he's about, actually.
    Gun philosopher. He talked about The Will a lot. Laid the groundwork for Nietzche's stuff if I recall correctly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C_C
    Wow. your school offered philosophy for AS/A level ? thats pretty neat!
    Once you've done the years of 'Jews do this' or 'Buddhists do this' it was suddenly a nice change to start looking more towards the hows and whys. I got my highest AS level grade in it but i dropped it anyway, which given how i went through year 13 was probably the best thing.

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    We had to do a year of Philosophy in our sixth form. (not for any exams or anything(well apart from internal ones)) Probably more use than general studies.

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    The best philosophers in the world is Jonno Bond, in my class. Proved that the universe doesnt exist. and Descartes mad eme lose my mind for two weeks not knowing if relaity was real or not

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomm NCCC
    The best philosophers in the world is Jonno Bond, in my class. Proved that the universe doesnt exist. and Descartes mad eme lose my mind for two weeks not knowing if relaity was real or not
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