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    In other news, Julia Gillard has come out and praised Black Caviar saying she has been a big fan and it has done great things for the greyhound industry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by howardj View Post
    There are no strings attached to the funding. Principals have the discretion as to how they will spend the money. An education money splash is so old school. Do the homework and really get in there and determine why Australia's performance is so lagging.
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    Quote Originally Posted by benchmark00 View Post
    In other news, Julia Gillard has come out and praised Black Caviar saying she has been a big fan and it has done great things for the greyhound industry.
    Following on from that...Scott Morrison has come out and said that, given it's black, people should be informed in advance if it is intending to move in next door to them post-retirement.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jono View Post
    The common criticism of education policy of the left is that they TAKE AWAY control from the schools and the principals etc. i.e. the people who actually know what they are doing.

    Most people whinge that bureaucrats shouldn't be running schools. You're saying the reverse is the problem?
    It's not a matter of tight control versus absolute discretion

    You provide the money with general conditions attached - aimed at improving learning outcomes

    We know that small class sizes don't work

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    Even better, as I stated before, you do your research and look at what improves learning outcomes

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    Australia's performance in public schools is so lacking because noone with any brains wants to be a ****ing teacher. It's not about the $, it's a rubbish job to do now. No autonomy, idiot parents to deal with with disproportionate influence over their kids school lives and kids who can look everything up on Google (without learning it) and think you're dumb for wanting to teach them stuff they can just look up. Why the **** would anyone want a bar of that if they felt like they had a choice?

    I dig teaching......at Uni. There's no way I'd do it at high school level. Even at Uni, it's sometimes a bit meh but at least you have the power give people zero marks if they deserve it and if they bitch, they'll be told quicksmart it was their fault.
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    Having 30 weeks of holidays a year sounds appealing to me tbf.

    Honestly reckon the standard of teaching in public schools has gone down because it's too appealing. Lowering UAI's needed to get in, the attractiveness of working 8.30-3 or whatever it is. Decent pay considering you don't have to be too smart to do it. Virtually guaranteed to get a job upon graduating. Hot bed for dead ****s. You get people who are becoming teachers not because they want to or they're good at it, but just because they can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by benchmark00 View Post
    Having 30 weeks of holidays a year sounds appealing to me tbf.

    Honestly reckon the standard of teaching in public schools has gone down because it's too appealing. Lowering UAI's needed to get in, the attractiveness of working 8.30-3 or whatever it is. Decent pay considering you don't have to be too smart to do it. Virtually guaranteed to get a job upon graduating. Hot bed for dead ****s. You get people who are becoming teachers not because they want to or they're good at it, but just because they can.
    Agree with both sides somewhat - it's completely unappealing for those who are intelligent enough to be doing it (because of rubbish pay, lack of mobility & autonomy .etc) while being the perfect career for people who don't give a **** (better pay than centrelink/retail, perception of short hours, get to yell at kids occasionally, guaranteed job .etc).

    The hours aren't quite as short as they're made out to be either, tbf (hence why you get a huge drop-out rate following the first experience of prac teaching; they don't like the idea that work doesn't finish when the students do), but that's more me being pedantic than anything else - still a bit less than most jobs I'm sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by howardj View Post
    We know that small class sizes don't work
    If I were a teacher, I'd be far more confident in my ability to teach a group of 25 than a group of 40. Not so sure it's making class sizes 'small', but more preventing them from becoming uncontrollably large.

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    When I come in to work at 7.30am and leave at 8-9pm on occasions there's no way teachers can complain about their hours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benchmark00 View Post
    When I come in to work at 7.30am and leave at 8-9pm on occasions there's no way teachers can complain about their hours.
    **** you probably spend 3/4 of that time on here.

    and take it from someone whose still at school, small class sizes might not guarantee a successful classroom but it sure is a ****load better the smaller they are. and while im at it, this current shift towards the use of laptops in the classroom or "1:1 learning" as my school likes to call it, is a **** idea, for a number of reasons that i cbf explaining but as i've found if you want to learn anything in class having a laptop in front of you is the last thing you want.

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    I thought the small class thing from howadj was more about the financial reality of it. as opposed to big classes being better for learning than smaller, which is obviously....
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