The Australian politics thread - Page 676

Spikey · 22-02-2012, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Redbacks

A good portion of political analysis in fairfax papers is simply wishful thinking for the ALP.

as opposed to

Redbacks · 22-02-2012, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Burgey

You obviously read them upside down then.

Between Coorey and Grattan I don't think I have read an article in 2 years which has failed to mention:

- Abbott is unelectable,
- Gillard just needs time,
- Polls are trending upwards (replace with preffered PM number, disatisfaction etc. anyone of them that favours the ALP)
- Great negotiator

And every single one of the predictions has been wrong. Gillard was caught out as a liar yet again on 4 corners.

Jono · 22-02-2012, 06:18 PM

So Fairfax describing Gillard as "rattled" in her press conference was?

Spikey · 22-02-2012, 06:21 PM

tbf I'm sick and tried of reading Gerard Henderson's pro-labor propaganda every time I open up the SMH website

Burgey · 22-02-2012, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Redbacks

Between Coorey and Grattan I don't think I have read an article in 2 years which has failed to mention:

- Abbott is unelectable,
- Gillard just needs time,
- Polls are trending upwards (replace with preffered PM number, disatisfaction etc. anyone of them that favours the ALP)
- Great negotiator

And every single one of the predictions has been wrong. Gillard was caught out as a liar yet again on 4 corners.

Rudd doesn't have breakfast without leaking to Coorey, and you must be talking about a different Michelle Grattan to the one who goes on RN breakfast every morning and pours a bucket of **** on Gillard.

Jono · 22-02-2012, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Spikey

tbf I'm sick and tried of reading Gerard Henderson's pro-labor propaganda every time I open up the SMH website

Redbacks · 22-02-2012, 08:32 PM

An opinion writer vs the Chief Political Writer I can see exactly what you mean.

Is this the real Julia?

yeap, she can win the ballot and still be considered a liar.

stephen · 22-02-2012, 09:24 PM

If Rudd wins this ballot I think I'll go apoplectic. Never has Australia been lumped with such an insufferable git as it's Prime Minister. Gillard is a much better choice of PM, despite the fact that I loathe her politics. At least she's somewhat intelligent. Although I do think that it's a tactical blunder for her to call the spill.

I seem to be the only QLDer to feel that way though.

It feels so strange that all this leadership stuff is coming up in the middle of a state election campaign. Bligh must be hating on the federal government so hard at the moment. Newman must be loving it. The Labor brand is being trashed and all he has to do is watch and run his positive campaign.

Redbacks · 22-02-2012, 09:36 PM

throw more iPads at the problem!!!

benchmark00 · 22-02-2012, 09:41 PM

Labor's new leader.

Jono · 22-02-2012, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by stephen

Although I do think that it's a tactical blunder for her to call the spill.

Really? Why?

She's given him 3-4 days at best to get the numbers. Otherwise he has to go to the backbench and try and pull a Keating and bide his time.

Surely this is better than allowing him to gather numbers over time without having another public defeat beforehand?

howardj · 22-02-2012, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by stephen

If Rudd wins this ballot I think I'll go apoplectic. Never has Australia been lumped with such an insufferable git as it's Prime Minister. Gillard is a much better choice of PM, despite the fact that I loathe her politics. At least she's somewhat intelligent. Although I do think that it's a tactical blunder for her to call the spill.

I seem to be the only QLDer to feel that way though.

.

I'm with you. It doesn't sit right with me having a nasty person as the leader of Australia. I don't know them personally, but I like to think most of the PMs have broadly speaking been decent enough folk - from Gillard through to Howard, Keating, Hawke, Fraser etc. Ruthless yes, and I'm sure they all had their bad moments but, on balance, they treated people decently. Rudd on the other hand...

Redbacks · 22-02-2012, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by benchmark00

Labor's new leader.

Good in a spill

benchmark00 · 22-02-2012, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by howardj

I'm with you. It doesn't sit right with me having a nasty person as the leader of Australia. I don't know them personally, but I like to think most of the PMs have broadly speaking been decent enough folk - from Gillard through to Howard, Keating, Hawke, Fraser etc. Ruthless yes, and I'm sure they all had their bad moments but, on balance, they treated people decently. Rudd on the other hand...

Nah Keating was and still is a ****wit.

Burgey · 22-02-2012, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by benchmark00

Nah Keating was and still is a ****wit.

Keating to Costello (1995) - YouTube

Peter Reith VS Paul Keating - YouTube

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Redbacks International Regular Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: aurora australis Posts: 3,635	An opinion writer vs the Chief Political Writer I can see exactly what you mean. Is this the real Julia? yeap, she can win the ballot and still be considered a liar.

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stephen International Regular Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: aus Posts: 3,454	If Rudd wins this ballot I think I'll go apoplectic. Never has Australia been lumped with such an insufferable git as it's Prime Minister. Gillard is a much better choice of PM, despite the fact that I loathe her politics. At least she's somewhat intelligent. Although I do think that it's a tactical blunder for her to call the spill. I seem to be the only QLDer to feel that way though. It feels so strange that all this leadership stuff is coming up in the middle of a state election campaign. Bligh must be hating on the federal government so hard at the moment. Newman must be loving it. The Labor brand is being trashed and all he has to do is watch and run his positive campaign.

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