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    Labor in an almost untenable position either way here.

    If Rudd contests the poll and Gillard wins then the malaise and sense of instability won’t be evaporating any time soon, this is all political journos are going to be writing about for a couple of months. It’d be bad news whether Rudd festers on the backbench or resigns and reduces their majority to zip while throwing bile from the sidelines in a Lathamesque manner.

    If Rudd somehow gets up then the majority of cabinet will have to disappear, and they’ll lose the services of their best parliamentary performer over the past five years in Gillard. Sadly that’d probably be the best outcome for the party’s electoral prospects though as at least it’d give them some opportunity to draw a line under all this and say ‘we were wrong, never should’ve dumped Kevin, forgive us, now let’s move on’.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vic_orthdox View Post
    How many times has it been including the person in power at the time?
    But you can't compare like that, because there's a maximum number of terms a president can serve, so effectively often there is no person in power.

    Hillary and Obama went at each other for months until eventually Obama won, then won the election and was in power.
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    So....it's on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by benchmark00 View Post
    Cracker of a government we have here.
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    The NSW disease is killing the ALP from the inside.

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    Rudd: "Tony Abbott does not have the temperament to be Prime Minister".

    just lol
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    I agree in a lot of ways with Ruckus over the last two pages but Spark has a point in that a meritocracy would be near impossible to keep free from corruption and self interest. One small step that could (and imo should) be taken is non compulsory voting. If you genuinely can't be arsed to show up you don't deserve a voice, and if that bothers you you have every right to simply show up and start giving a ****. It's not a true meritocracy, but it rewards those who are intelligent enough to actually value the incredible gift we have in this country.
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    Good presser from Gillard right now.

    Calling out Rudd to go to the backbench if he loses, and saying she will do the same if she loses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jono View Post
    Good presser from Gillard right now.

    Calling out Rudd to go to the backbench if he loses, and saying she will do the same if she loses.
    Yeah but he won't give that guarantee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spark View Post
    literally the first response of every foreign outsider or newcomer who has had some exposure to aus politics when i've asked is "what/why the **** are you lot complaining so much?"
    Haha, very true.

    That or "You really do argue over a whole heap of nothing, don't you?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruckus View Post
    Does anyone else think the idea of a democracy is a farce? In short: let every citizen have the right to vote on who the leaders in the country should be, disregarding the fact that the population on the whole generally has no idea about anything. Then allow those elected leaders to make the decisions. Great idea.
    I'm of the view that, based on the current published polls, approximately 54% of the electorate shouldn't be allowed to vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spark View Post
    Betting that's why Burke and Swan have come out and said what they've said tonight... apart from stating some well-known self-evident statements of fact.
    The comments of the Ministers aren't primarily for the benefit of the electorate, though they give (finally) some idea as to why they rolled him, namely he was a prized **** to deal with, to the point where it was paralyzing.

    They are more for the benefit of the back benchers.

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    Peter Hartcher put it best this morning when he said that: "faced with a choice between a bad boss or unemployment, most will take the former".

    Rudd's problem is the proximity of the election - it's too far away from this challenge for MPs to take the drastic action of reinstalling somebody most of them loathe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgey View Post
    I'm of the view that, based on the current published polls, approximately 54% of the electorate shouldn't be allowed to vote.
    hahaha.

    Very much looking forward to seeing how Rudd is going to justify a challenge (if he goes for it), given his comments over the past few days.

    I love as well how despite Gilliard and Rudd sharing fairly similar policies, the emphasis always seems to be on allowing the party to focus on "the real business of government"...na it's not about ego or anything like that is it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by howardj View Post
    Peter Hartcher put it best this morning when he said that: "faced with a choice between a bad boss or unemployment, most will take the former".

    Rudd's problem is the proximity of the election - it's too far away from this challenge for MPs to take the drastic action of reinstalling somebody most of them loathe.
    Yeah he was stupid to take the bait thrown out there by Crean.



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