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    Quote Originally Posted by Jono View Post
    The guy arguing with Bob Brown?

    It did get a shot of his face.
    Ah OK, what I saw mustn't have been the whole thing.
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    Yeah, 6.30 with George Negus had some other footage of the presser. A side camera which showed him arguing back, and then Bob Brown telling him not to get upset
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    Good to see Turnbull speaking his mind but ultimately he might be doing his cause a lot of damage within the party. He really has to bank on the public completely rejecting Abbott at the next election before you would think the party apparatus would consider him a potential leader again.

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    Turnbull boosters always seem to forget what the polls were like when he was leader. He failed to get any traction with the punters or with the media. Then he ran himself over with Ute-gate.
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    RE the carbon tax broken promise...

    Justifying it by arguing "we're in minority Government, so we have to compromise" is flawed IMO

    Every Government since Federation (except for a couple of exceptions) has had a hostile Senate and has had to compromise to get its program through.

    Being in minority Govrernment only means some extra negotiation. It doesn't give you carte blanche to go back on what you expressly stated on election eve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by howardj View Post
    Turnbull boosters always seem to forget what the polls were like when he was leader. He failed to get any traction with the punters or with the media. Then he ran himself over with Ute-gate.
    True. Heard someone ask yesterday why MT is so popular and I thought "because he's not leader ATM". Teflon Tony seems to get away with a lot by comparison with him, but I think that's because Abbott's got better political judgment.
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    An unfortunate nature of the beast. Abbott is skilled (brilliant would be used by some, but a hard term to stomach even for some liberals given his conservative outlook) political game player but ultimately Turnbull is the guy who would best fill the shoes of a good liberal and someone that labor could atleast find acceptable i.e. in theory has the potential to be a great leader.

    As former Labor MP Bob Catley noted in the early 90's when Keating took over from Hawke based on polling, politics has changed forever, it's more all about winning rather than pure convictions now, I guess it's the responsibility of the public to really scrutinise power in new ways to keep it in check.

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    Climate change, as an issue is responsible for more political deaths than any other single topic in my lifetime. Howard, Nelson, Rudd, Turnbull and probably Gillard will have all fallen over one climate change policy or another.

    Seriously though, the only two policies that are worth considering are no action or an ETS. "Direct action" is code for "expensive waste of taxpayers' money" and "carbon tax" is code for "carbon tax". I've never known new taxes to solve anything except short term government revenue problems.
    Last edited by stephen; 19-05-2011 at 09:52 PM. Reason: CPRS is a crap term that is deliberately deceptive. I will not use it as a synonym for ETS any more.

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    This is not a 'new tax'

    it's a Great Big New Tax

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    ^ on everything!

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    Ah yes, how could I forget the GBNToE, or as I like to pronounce it the "gibbon toe".

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    Quote Originally Posted by stephen View Post
    Ah yes, how could I forget the GBNToE, or as I like to pronounce it the "gibbon toe".
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    Quote Originally Posted by stephen View Post
    Ah yes, how could I forget the GBNToE, or as I like to pronounce it the "gibbon toe".


    If Tony starts calling it 'the gibbon toe' I might be tempted to vote for him. He'll **** it up and call it 'the camel toe' though, annoying potential female voters in the process.
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    can Hockey, whats-his-face, Rudd and gillard just have a fight to the death already

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    But Liberal MP Mal Washer broke ranks with his leader when contacted by The Sunday Age last week. Dr Washer, who spent 26 years as a medical practitioner before moving into federal politics, gave a blunt assessment of the tobacco industry's strategy.
    ''All this talk of chop chop and crime gangs sounds like bull**** to me. The tobacco industry is jumping up and down because they're worried about their businesses. I support these reforms unequivocally and whatever my party decides to do, I don't give a ****,'' Dr Washer said.
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