The Australian politics thread - Page 509

Jono · 21-10-2010, 08:15 PM

That was clear yesterday when Brown backed him.

Now that Joe Hockey has surely confirmed he's too retarded to ever be leader, he should jump ship to the Greens. Pretty sure Benchy would be a big fan of his defection, what with Hockey now officially contradicting Benchy's free market views

Burgey · 21-10-2010, 08:41 PM

Just goes to show. the Libs might get into government, but it's the Greens who would be in power...

Jono · 21-10-2010, 08:59 PM

Costello 'never had the balls' to challenge Howard, says Hewson

Loving Hewson lately.

Redbacks · 21-10-2010, 09:35 PM

Ken Henry on the risks involved in bringing the budget back to surplus too quickly. Just a shame for labour that they don't have the economic credibility with the public to try and explain this in the media. Hopefully Swan works with these comments this week, could still be used to slag on the opposition which seems to be his 'comfort zone' in political discourse.

Returning to surplus not without cost: Henry - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Jono · 21-10-2010, 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burgey

YouTube - keating

YouTube - Paul Keating Vs. Peter Costello

I mean, how could one resist? Yeah, yeah. Posted it before. Who cares?

Look at poor old Downer here. Just copping the mother of all pizzlings..

YouTube - Paul Keating vs Alexander Downer the Salmon that jumps on the hook for you.

Little montage here.. love the comments about the Senate..

Video "Paul J Keatings Greatest Hits" - Technorati

Come back Paul. **** the "new paradigm".

His low altitude flyer call is always worthy of a listen again whenever Costello vs. Howard comes up

howardj · 21-10-2010, 09:44 PM

John Hewson lol

What a flimsy lightweight

Burgey · 21-10-2010, 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by howardj

John Hewson lol

What a flimsy lightweight

Yeah. Did an Abbott - got close then self-immolated.

howardj · 21-10-2010, 09:48 PM

Bull****

Abbott won

Jono · 21-10-2010, 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by howardj

John Hewson lol

What a flimsy lightweight

Don't ever have a go at a man that can catch an egg thrown at him mid-speech IMO.

Burgey · 21-10-2010, 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by howardj

Bull****

Abbott won

That's what Tone thinks! It's why he's coming undone. Got to get some popcorn for the coming months...

howardj · 21-10-2010, 10:15 PM

It will be interesting

At the next election the Government will be in the unusual situation of actually almost needing a swing to it to retain Government.

On the other hand, you'd have to think the Coalition are at a high water mark here in Queensland and, absent the Rudd and Bligh factor, would definitely pick up some seats here.

EDIT (The GOVT would pick up seats in sunny Qld, I mean).

Jono · 21-10-2010, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by howardj

It will be interesting

At the next election the Government will be in the unusual situation of actually almost needing a swing to it to retain Government.

On the other hand, you'd have to think the Coalition are at a high water mark here in Queensland and, absent the Rudd and Bligh factor, would definitely pick up some seats here.

That is Abbott's biggest concern.

Is it time for the Liberals to dispose of Abbott? - Unleashed (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Redbacks · 21-10-2010, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jono

That is Abbott's biggest concern.

Is it time for the Liberals to dispose of Abbott? - Unleashed (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Probably his biggest hurdle:

Notwithstanding his natural tendency to "ferocious" opposition, a tactic that has worked very well for him so far, Abbott's political future hinges on creating and maintaining an air of crisis and instability around the Gillard Government.

This will rely on being very negative for a long time which will turn people further of the Liberals. Intersting thing is that rational observers can claim on the one hand it's his best strategy to win the next election, but at the same time show statistics which say other than "they took ere jerbs" issues in mining states, they don't have any current traction in NSW,VIC, TAS and SA.

howardj · 22-10-2010, 12:11 AM

Yes, I think after being thrown out of a long period of office, the experienced old guard is entitled to have the first crack at fast tracking your way straight back into Government at the following election. Geez, Beazley and Abbott almost pulled it off in 1998 and 2010. However, if you fail, you really need to renew - if not your leader than at the very least your front bench and your back bench particularly if they occupy safe seats like Ruddock, B Bishop etc.

I happen to think that Abbott is the best leader for at least the next year. However, if he starts to slide right off in the opinion polls. then like with Beazley, there probably is no way back and he probably shouldn't get another shot at the title.

Top_Cat · 23-10-2010, 04:23 PM

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howardj International Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: brisbane Posts: 12,109	It will be interesting At the next election the Government will be in the unusual situation of actually almost needing a swing to it to retain Government. On the other hand, you'd have to think the Coalition are at a high water mark here in Queensland and, absent the Rudd and Bligh factor, would definitely pick up some seats here. EDIT (The GOVT would pick up seats in sunny Qld, I mean). Last edited by howardj; 22-10-2010 at 12:00 AM.

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Jono Request Your Custom Title Now! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Virat Kohli Posts: 47,560	That was clear yesterday when Brown backed him. Now that Joe Hockey has surely confirmed he's too retarded to ever be leader, he should jump ship to the Greens. Pretty sure Benchy would be a big fan of his defection, what with Hockey now officially contradicting Benchy's free market views

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Redbacks International Vice-Captain Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Barrow Island, WA Posts: 4,063	Ken Henry on the risks involved in bringing the budget back to surplus too quickly. Just a shame for labour that they don't have the economic credibility with the public to try and explain this in the media. Hopefully Swan works with these comments this week, could still be used to slag on the opposition which seems to be his 'comfort zone' in political discourse. Returning to surplus not without cost: Henry - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

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howardj International Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: brisbane Posts: 12,109	Yes, I think after being thrown out of a long period of office, the experienced old guard is entitled to have the first crack at fast tracking your way straight back into Government at the following election. Geez, Beazley and Abbott almost pulled it off in 1998 and 2010. However, if you fail, you really need to renew - if not your leader than at the very least your front bench and your back bench particularly if they occupy safe seats like Ruddock, B Bishop etc. I happen to think that Abbott is the best leader for at least the next year. However, if he starts to slide right off in the opinion polls. then like with Beazley, there probably is no way back and he probably shouldn't get another shot at the title.

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