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    Four Corners

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    I wonder if the rumour of their having caught Abbott losing the plot with rage are true? Surely it would have leaked out before now?
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    Howie starting to lather up some spittle now, practicing his muttered imprecations as we speak...
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    Not sure if I can watch an hour of Oakshot without something being hurled at the TV



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    Quote Originally Posted by howardj View Post
    Four Corners

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    Am still waiting with baited breath about the supposed Four Corners on the NRL and salary caps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt79 View Post
    What's she done?
    I was just annoyed after viewing last weeks episode of Q & A and her response to questions on the climate change comittee proposed by Labor . Perhaps the grief was directed to her in the particular case but really is trancendent across all political rhetoric we are exposed to in the media on the issue.

    We have:

    a) Labor ruling out a Carbon Tax pre-election now, due to the new politcal paradigm, we are being told it is bad politics to rule things out. Thus a conclusion we can draw from this is that the "No Carbon Tax" was a vote grab and their real position would have been to say "Carbon tax is not a preferred option" which would have been jumped on by opponents no doubt, thus they fluffed their lines to cut off this criticism opening the door for the recent attacks. (We could claim here: oh it's typical Liberal politics to twist such words and they are the agents through which such games are necessitated. Labor on Abbott and Workplace relations changes of any sort is an obvious case of role reversal) The old game of "You don't believe in the science" is back on again and we really haven't done anything since 07.

    b) Liberals claiming that 144 of the elected members made it into the Lower house went to an election on the basis of "No carbon tax", yet they refuse to sit on the comittee claiming that it has a "Carbon tax" as it's predetermined outcome. Yet one could argue that if both parties sat on the comittee and reached an agreement based on their previous aversion to a carbon tax, then yes we could get an agreement on a climate change policy which is true to the pre-election promises of both parties, or the Liberals could contribute ideas which lead to an outcome not requiring such a tax. It seems that the root cause of the Liberals not wanting to play is that they already have a policy that they think can meet the emmission reduction targets and thus don't want to budge or allow Labor to play the 'shared responsibility' card with regards to the resultant hardship to be faced by all Australians in the coming years as a result of the tax.
    Lets not forget the rulings of this group don't come down until the next election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by howardj View Post


    Not sure if I can watch an hour of Oakshot without something being hurled at the TV

    Surely an hour of Katter can neutralise some of the effects of Oakeshott

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    The 4 Corners ep was pretty different from their usual methods, as it wasn't investigative journalism really, but just tracking the footsteps of the independents.

    Some incredibly interesting moments caught on film though:
    - Katter walking out of the room randomly whilst Windsor was talking to him about serious issues
    - Katter's advisers telling him to stop criticising the coalition
    - Katter not wanting the cameras in when he told Oakeshott and Windsor he was going with the coalition
    - Abbott's face when he came into Windsor's office unannounced after the costing miscalculations were exposed
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    Only caught the tail-end of it. What struck me was that they took 17 days to gather evidence all the while maintaining they were undecided and had no leaning, and yet seem to have a final deliberation of all of 15 minutes (Oakshot and Windsor conversation). Of course, they had no obligation to be inpartial and were free to choose whoever they wish. However, why maintain the 'I'm undecided' line, and string the country out for 17 days if you knew which way you were going. At least you could admire Adam Bandt for being upfront from the outset.

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    Why is Abbott saying he didn't go to the 'ghan as he didn't want to be jetlagged when he got to the UK?

    Just a weird thing to say. He should have just said no, he will go later when it suits him.

    Personally don't care whether he goes or not, but it's an odd reason to put out in the public domain.

    As for Four Corners, there was that comedy gold moment where Oakeshott walked in on Abbott as he was about to give the journo both barrels. Literally bumped into him as he was railing at the reporter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by howardj View Post
    Only caught the tail-end of it. What struck me was that they took 17 days to gather evidence all the while maintaining they were undecided and had no leaning, and yet seem to have a final deliberation of all of 15 minutes (Oakshot and Windsor conversation). Of course, they had no obligation to be inpartial and were free to choose whoever they wish. However, why maintain the 'I'm undecided' line, and string the country out for 17 days if you knew which way you were going. At least you could admire Adam Bandt for being upfront from the outset.
    That would have been silly. They wanted to ensure they got the most out of Gillard and Abbott, and as the doco showed, Abbott threw in a nice offer very late.

    The longer they waited, and played it as if they would choose either side, the better result they'd get for themselves and rural Australia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgey View Post
    Why is Abbott saying he didn't go to the 'ghan as he didn't want to be jetlagged when he got to the UK?

    Just a weird thing to say. He should have just said no, he will go later when it suits him.

    Personally don't care whether he goes or not, but it's an odd reason to put out in the public domain.
    He apologised on ABC radio today for his comments.
    Sloppy Joe did the inevitable defence claiming Abbott had a visit in the near future the date of which was suppressed for security reasons.

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    Four Corners this week was incredible. Best hour of TV all year.
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    Nah, that was from about 4:30-5:30 last Saturday on 7 tbh...

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    Nah, it was from 6:30pm-7:30pm on Fox Sports 2 yesterday.



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