The Australian politics thread - Page 253

howardj · 14-03-2010, 03:56 PM

Big night for political tragics.

Four Corners profiles the Straight Talker.

The Australian publishes the latest Newspoll.

Burgey · 14-03-2010, 08:15 PM

One can always count on Wilson...

Acknowledging traditional ownership a farce: Tuckey - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Redbacks · 15-03-2010, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Burgey

One can always count on Wilson...

Acknowledging traditional ownership a farce: Tuckey - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Same old I guess, The Liberals are back to old tricks, looking to drive a wedge between the Left and Labour's the working class supporters.

James90 · 15-03-2010, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by howardj

Big night for political tragics.

Four Corners profiles the Straight Talker.

The Australian publishes the latest Newspoll.

If Essential is anything to go by then there's be a surge to the ALP. I'm guessing 54-46.

Abbott's PPL to be thrown in the "too good to be true" basket

SirBloody Idiot · 15-03-2010, 07:50 AM

I'm not overly religious by any definition, but there's something about the more out-spoken athiests that ****s me something chronic.

Jono · 15-03-2010, 08:00 AM

Richard Dawkins is a legend though, if you're referring to him.

SirBloody Idiot · 15-03-2010, 08:02 AM

I've not been overly familiar with him before, but he didn't do himself any favours last week IMO. This mole on Q&A tonight is no better.

Jono · 15-03-2010, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Burgey

One can always count on Wilson...

Acknowledging traditional ownership a farce: Tuckey - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

God I hate the both of them.

howardj · 15-03-2010, 02:26 PM

Yes We Can

41-39 on the primaries to the good guys.

Seems Rudd's health announcement two weeks ago hasn't been the silver bullet he was hoping for.

Burgey · 15-03-2010, 05:19 PM

No you can't.

Abbott's PPL scheme has bounced like a dead cat. Still 52-48 despite another two bad weeks for the government. Rudd still 20-something points ahead as PPM too. Reckon this is the end of the slide tbh (or at least, I'm obviously hoping so).

howardj · 15-03-2010, 08:47 PM

Rudd announced a $50 billion health plan in that period, and got much positive publicity.

A party won't win with a primary vote in the 30s.

Matt79 · 16-03-2010, 03:26 AM

The Australian polls have been weird for a while. They're pretty blatantly out to get Rudd at the moment, and his disdain for them is no doubt only motivating them to go harder. As was memorably stated on the Insiders a couple of weeks ago, you have to take The Aus with a large grain of salt.

Jono · 16-03-2010, 10:37 AM

Heh, Costello.

howardj · 16-03-2010, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt79

The Australian polls have been weird for a while. They're pretty blatantly out to get Rudd at the moment, and his disdain for them is no doubt only motivating them to go harder. As was memorably stated on the Insiders a couple of weeks ago, you have to take The Aus with a large grain of salt.

So, they were OK since late 2006 to January 2010 when they were showing 58-42, but now they're not OK?

AC Neilsen, which notoriously overblows Labor's vote, is also now showing the parties equal on the Primary vote.

I think the biggest indicator that there has been a seachange was Rudd ringing up Ray Hadley and, of all people, Alan Jones and asking for airtime.

That, and this, is the best indicator that Labor's own polling is telling them something at the moment.

Personally, I can't wait to see the back of Rudd, whether it's by the hand of the electorate or that of Gillard. I think he is a nasty piece of work who has absolute contempt for colleagues and the public alike. I bet half the Labor Parliamentary party can't wait to tear him down either. I think Costello showed what can happen to your leadership aspirations when you've pissed off enough backbenchers. Not that I think a party would lightly oust a Prime Minister. But, without Newspoll, Rudd really doesn't have a support base.

stephen · 16-03-2010, 04:46 PM

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Heh, Costello.

Yeah, one only wonders what the polls could have been like were Costello to have taken over instead of Abbott.

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14-03-2010, 03:56 PM	#3781 (permalink)
howardj International Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: brisbane Posts: 12,099	Big night for political tragics. Four Corners profiles the Straight Talker. The Australian publishes the latest Newspoll.

15-03-2010, 07:50 AM	#3785 (permalink)
SirBloody Idiot Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Moving the hole in the o-zone layer Posts: 8,442	I'm not overly religious by any definition, but there's something about the more out-spoken athiests that ****s me something chronic.

15-03-2010, 08:00 AM	#3786 (permalink)
Jono Request Your Custom Title Now! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Virat Kohli Posts: 47,431	Richard Dawkins is a legend though, if you're referring to him.

15-03-2010, 08:02 AM	#3787 (permalink)
SirBloody Idiot Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Moving the hole in the o-zone layer Posts: 8,442	I've not been overly familiar with him before, but he didn't do himself any favours last week IMO. This mole on Q&A tonight is no better.

15-03-2010, 02:26 PM	#3789 (permalink)
howardj International Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: brisbane Posts: 12,099	Yes We Can 41-39 on the primaries to the good guys. Seems Rudd's health announcement two weeks ago hasn't been the silver bullet he was hoping for.

15-03-2010, 05:19 PM	#3790 (permalink)
Burgey Cricket Web Staff Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: The Castle Posts: 35,118	No you can't. Abbott's PPL scheme has bounced like a dead cat. Still 52-48 despite another two bad weeks for the government. Rudd still 20-something points ahead as PPM too. Reckon this is the end of the slide tbh (or at least, I'm obviously hoping so).

15-03-2010, 08:47 PM	#3791 (permalink)
howardj International Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: brisbane Posts: 12,099	Rudd announced a $50 billion health plan in that period, and got much positive publicity. A party won't win with a primary vote in the 30s.

16-03-2010, 10:37 AM	#3793 (permalink)
Jono Request Your Custom Title Now! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Virat Kohli Posts: 47,431	Heh, Costello.

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