Yeah, find it hard to feel sympathetic for them. Think straight outlawing it would be ineffective, and too intrusive (and generate an 'illegal' drug problem on a scale we haven't dreamt of atm), but think its fair enough that if people wish to exercise their freedom of choice, the government use its powers of taxation to make sure the cost of doing so aligns with the cost to society of them doing so.
GOOD OLD COLLINGWOOD - PREMIERS IN 2010Originally Posted by Irfan
Is Cam White, Is Good.
That's fine that they will pay for their hospital bill but what a load of hypocrisy given state governments have invested money in tobacco/gmabling/alcohol companies, it's a revenue raiser and not much else, tax junk food or people who are overwieght and likely to get type II Diabetes also....
As proposed the funds raised will be quarantined from the main budget, and reserved for the health system, saying that its just a revenue raiser is a bit steep.
Doesn't really matter what governments have funded in the past if they're now moving to correct those errors. Or to look at it one way, just because you've done the wrong thing for a while, its hypocrisy to see the error of your ways and do an aboutface?
In terms of impact on health, junk food is nowhere near as bad for you as ciggies - but in anycase, I agree that some form of extra taxation on junk food would be desirable. Would prefer tax rises to be used to promote positive social behaviour - outlawing stuff is undesirable, but accurately reflect the full price of items is the best way to achieve goals.
Closed system [money in - money out= +- in revenue, either way someone will be taking political credit for it]. Perhaps it goes to the health system whilst other funds are spent on pink bat factories in key Qld seats....
We live in an inperfect world.
The laptop for every kid in high school
Emissions trading scheme operational by mid 2010...
Fantastic on making announcements...just don't expect any follow up.
As opposed to Howard's policy of not announcing things and then doing them anyway:
GST
Iraq War
etc
(BTW, I'm not really that ironed on a ALP supporter by any means, I just like debating with you!)
I think Turnbull should have a read of The Art of War by Sun Tzu
Thus the highest form of generalship is to balk the enemy’s plans; the
next best is to prevent the junction of the enemy’s forces; the next in
order is to attack the enemy’s army in the field; and the worst policy of all
is to besiege walled cities. .....
The general, unable to control his irritation, will launch his men to the
assault like swarming ants, with the result that one-third of his men are
slain, while the town still remains untaken. Such are the disastrous effects
of a siege. ......
Hence the saying: If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need
not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the
enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know
neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.
My second quote of the day:
I have found organisations whose only thrust is economic-to make money. They don't usually publicise that purpose. They sometimes even publicise something else. But in their hearts, thier only desire is to make money.
Whenever I find this, I also find a great deal of negative synergy in the culture, generating such things as interdepartmental rivalries, defensive and protective communication, politicking, and masterminding. We can't effectively thrive without making money, but that's not sufficient reason for organisational existince. We can't live without eating, but we don't live to eat.
At the other end of the spectrum, I've seen organisations that focused almost exclusively on the social/emotional dimension. They are, in a sense, some kind of social experiment and they have no economic criteria to their value system. They have no measure or gauge of their effectiveness, and as a result, they lose all kinds of efficiencies and eventually lose their viability in the marketplace.
-S Covey
Fair Pay Commision has opted to freeze minimum wages at the current level for now.
Debt truck (not ute) is back!
Keep on truckin' around Australia!
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So with inflation, it only took 18 months of labor for "real wages" to fall
Stimulus payments, tax cuts etc probably mean they haven't.
Yeah thought the same thing when I read it.
"What is this what is this who is this guy shouting what is this going on in here?" - CP. (re: psxpro)
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