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    Quote Originally Posted by howardj View Post
    All I'd say to coalition supporters is "Beware the Messiah complex". We went through it with Latham. I'm not saying Turnbull's Latham, just don't expect miracles straight away, though I'd expect a bounce of some sort - he couldn't get a worse result than Nelson.

    Jack Lang once said to Paul Keating "Always beware the sky rockets in politics Paul. They launch into the sky with fanfare, colour and noise, then a burnt out stick falls to the ground". Happened with Latham, happened with Hewson.

    Turnbull's more progressive than a lot of Libs, especially in the NSW party machine. If he tries to take the party to the centre and the polls don't go his way, then look out for the machine to roll him, coz they'd rather have a more conservative fellow there.

    Having said that, I think it will be interesting to see how he goes. Plainly his stance on Kyoto and emissions seems personally to be more progressive than most of the Tories, and of course he's a well-known republican. The point is, can he take the party with him on issues like that? If he doesn't try, no doubt he'll cop heaps about not following his principles, but if he tries and fails, he's a dead duck.

    Interesting point on the timing issue from that link too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgey View Post
    Dire. Terrible campaign by Labor in WA by all reports. Must confess I haven't been following it too closely.
    Im no expert, but the campaigns were both weak. 4 weeks flys by...

    I think it had more to do with the fact that we had this huge economic boom, but your average jo and jane didnt feel it. There was so much money floating around, and all the middle class got was a new train line. They were unhappy with their return, so they gave someone the chop. Thats how I see it anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linda View Post
    Im no expert, but the campaigns were both weak. 4 weeks flys by...

    I think it had more to do with the fact that we had this huge economic boom, but your average jo and jane didnt feel it. There was so much money floating around, and all the middle class got was a new train line. They were unhappy with their return, so they gave someone the chop. Thats how I see it anyway.
    Probably spot on. Though at least you got your railway line. Ours will be axed for sure and certain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by howardj View Post
    I can hear Dennis SHanahan now "It's the budget bounce!!! The budget bounce!!! A year and a half late, but it's the bounce!!!"

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    Isn't Paul Keating due for another rant anytime soon? Been a while for him...

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    Not sure but I'm well overdue.

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    Last edited by Johnners; 25-09-2008 at 08:45 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clapo View Post
    I think he missed a big opportunity. If he'd only stopped here;

    "It is a serious question and it's a serious issue, and yes I have smoked pot .....

    .....and not gone here;

    "I think people of (my) generation ... I hope, had we known when we were much younger the severe consequences that can come from smoking marijuana, I would hope we wouldn't have done so.

    "I think now with what we know about marijuana, I think it is a very serious drug, and it is a drug that we should strongly discourage everybody, be they young or old, but obviously particularly young people from using."


    People still smoke drugs despite being better informed. If he'd been told all of the info back in the day, would he have stopped himself and thrown the joint away? Doubt it very much.

    He swapped from "I'm just like you." to moralist in the blink of an eye then contradicted himself later with that garbage about his government being more about the role of giving people the opportunity to do their best, rather than a bureaucracy.

    When Rudd was busted for going into a strip joint, instead of just saying "Yeah I did, so what? I was drunk and went into a strip joint, big deal", he played it off as if he had no idea it was a strip joint (please) and as soon as he realised, left in a moralist huff (no doubt personally telling off all of his mates for indulging in such horrific behaviour).

    Similarly, Turnbull totally had the chance to score some points here and fluffed it. It's not a big deal, it shouldn't be a big deal and if he'd portrayed it as such, it would remain a non-event. Instead, he's given Labor an 'in' which they'll no doubt exploit later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clapo View Post
    Big deal.

    Swan did it, Clinton did it (although he claimed he did not inhale so I have no idea how that is possible and still get stoned), and half the politicans under the sun have. Hell even Sarah Palin smoked it.

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    Good idea

    Appointing non-politicians to Cabinet (as is allowed in the U.S) would allow for specialist expertise to be drawn upon.

    Cabinet would still remain the ultimate decision-making body, so it's not as if you would have un-elected folk making big ticket decisions.



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