South Africa

Langeveldt · 25-10-2005, 07:30 AM

Photos, good old webshots, which will be updated weekly, just incase anyone is interested/bored.

Which can be found here

Sanz · 25-10-2005, 12:17 PM

Nice Pictures !!! Looks like a nice and quite little town and seems like a Great place to be. Hope you had fun.

Craig · 26-10-2005, 02:54 AM

Looks like a nice looking country.

benchmark00 · 26-10-2005, 04:28 AM

Just stick with the coterie and you'll be fine...

Adamc · 26-10-2005, 04:43 AM

Nice pics. What does "VRY STAAA AAAT!" mean?

Samuel_Vimes · 26-10-2005, 04:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adamc

Nice pics. What does "VRY STAAA AAAT!" mean?

Free Staaaaaaate?

Langeveldt · 26-10-2005, 10:58 AM

Correct Hakon..

Site updated again

luckyeddie · 26-10-2005, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samuel_Vimes

Free Staaaaaaate?

Is that like "Free Hat"?

(South Park joke)

Langeveldt · 27-10-2005, 11:24 AM

updated, with flight over the garden route..

http://community.webshots.com/user/richardhingston

luckyeddie · 27-10-2005, 11:35 AM

Great stuff, Zippy.

Keep 'em coming.

Chubb · 27-10-2005, 12:10 PM

That's a hell of a place to live... makes Devon look tame.

Is that township right next to Plettenbergbaai, and is Plettenbergbaai some sort of gated community? The two halves of the new South Africa?

Langeveldt · 31-10-2005, 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chubb

That's a hell of a place to live... makes Devon look tame.

Is that township right next to Plettenbergbaai, and is Plettenbergbaai some sort of gated community? The two halves of the new South Africa?

Yeah the township is near plettenberg bay.. Its a typical town described in my last paragraph

Thats nothing compared to in the city though, Unionweg near where I live is one half "Beverly Hills style" houses with BMW's parked in the garage, and on the other side of the street is a sprawling "township" full of tin shacks, and when the wind blows all the rubbish and corrugated metal gets blown onto the road in the middle.. Something likle 10,000 people live there with no running water and opposite lives a guy with a 007 EC license plate.. Probably worth more than what the guys ten metres away would earn in a lifetime..

Nearly all the towns in SA are pretty, neat, well ordered colonial places, and then you cross a railway line/river/road and you see how the "other half" lives.. Its just a sea of metal houses, plastic bags and poverty that goes on forever and the two rarely meet.. I'll try and get a photo of Unionweg some time, but its the same everywhere.. For "New South Africa" just read "Politically correct Apartheid"

Chubb · 31-10-2005, 04:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Langeveldt

Yeah the township is near plettenberg bay.. Its a typical town described in my last paragraph

Thats nothing compared to in the city though, Unionweg near where I live is one half "Beverly Hills style" houses with BMW's parked in the garage, and on the other side of the street is a sprawling "township" full of tin shacks, and when the wind blows all the rubbish and corrugated metal gets blown onto the road in the middle.. Something likle 10,000 people live there with no running water and opposite lives a guy with a 007 EC license plate.. Probably worth more than what the guys ten metres away would earn in a lifetime..

Nearly all the towns in SA are pretty, neat, well ordered colonial places, and then you cross a railway line/river/road and you see how the "other half" lives.. Its just a sea of metal houses, plastic bags and poverty that goes on forever and the two rarely meet.. I'll try and get a photo of Unionweg some time, but its the same everywhere.. For "New South Africa" just read "Politically correct Apartheid"

That's just terrible. We hear all these things about how successful South Africa has become and yet it's basically the same old economic situation. And whilst two sections of a population are so vastly seperated in economic terms, then true integration will never be achieved. It's not about having six black guys in your cricket or rugby teams- that's just tokenism and propaganda. As long as there are townships, then South Africa will not be integrated. In the end, the modern root cause of discrimination and exclusion is economics, not race-theory except in the case of crackpot nazis.

chris.hinton · 31-10-2005, 08:40 AM

there are some good pic there Rich

Langeveldt · 31-10-2005, 08:50 AM

Summed it up well, but I don't think integration is the answer.. Its just PC rubbish spouted by politicians and lets be honest, it doesn't happen in Europe, so it will never happen here.. Whats needed is the removal of poverty and its causes and for the people in the townships to become self sufficient..

Don't get me wrong though because there's a real sense that things are happening here, its an incredibly happy and vibrant place with a whole lot less racism than in places like the UK and Holland. Things are going forward, albeit slowly, but don't forget this is Africa and you don't change 40 years of total mis-management overnight..

I still think it's the best country in the world by miles, but it doesn't half smash up your conscience when you see all the inequality from ground level... And I wasn't even alive in the 60's and 70's..

Anyway on a lighter note, more pictures up

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Langeveldt Soutie Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Stellenbosch - South Africa Posts: 29,336	Summed it up well, but I don't think integration is the answer.. Its just PC rubbish spouted by politicians and lets be honest, it doesn't happen in Europe, so it will never happen here.. Whats needed is the removal of poverty and its causes and for the people in the townships to become self sufficient.. Don't get me wrong though because there's a real sense that things are happening here, its an incredibly happy and vibrant place with a whole lot less racism than in places like the UK and Holland. Things are going forward, albeit slowly, but don't forget this is Africa and you don't change 40 years of total mis-management overnight.. I still think it's the best country in the world by miles, but it doesn't half smash up your conscience when you see all the inequality from ground level... And I wasn't even alive in the 60's and 70's.. Anyway on a lighter note, more pictures up

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