The question of Evil

[Pothas]

One of the most common argument against God is the existance of evil. If God is all powerfull but also all loving then how can he alow suffereing and terrible acts to take place? surley this means he is not the omnibolvilant god he is supposed to be. On the other hand if god cant interfere then surley he lacks power? If god is something that creates and then cant interfer then what about miracles and even more fundementaly to christain belief how did he come to earth in the form of jesus?

Of course the most common rebuttel to this is that God gives us the gift of freewill and created us as imperfect beings and it is our job to resist these evil temptations and reach paradise. But wouldnt a loving god stop people from taking evil actions? this of course poses the othrer fascinating question is hapiness or freedom more important? Then there is the devil that seems to play a more obscure role in my culture (christianity), whare he is not a balance to god but merley a temptation to humans.

[C_C]

Which definition of God are you talking about ? The Judeo-Christian God, the Islamic God, the Hindu Gods, the Greek Gods, the Shinto God, etc ?

[Pothas]

Originally Posted by C_C

Which definition of God are you talking about ? The Judeo-Christian God, the Islamic God, the Hindu Gods, the Greek Gods, the Shinto God, etc ?

The judeo-christian God i am perfectly happen to widen the debate it is just that is the definition of God i relate to as i come from a chrisitanity based country

[C_C]

The Judeo Christian God, by his own 'book' ( Bible) is a total evil despotic idiot against whom even hitler appears to be a saint. So by Judeo-Christian definition, you dont need a Satan- you already got Jehovah!

[Pothas]

Originally Posted by C_C

The Judeo Christian God, by his own 'book' ( Bible) is a total evil despotic idiot against whom even hitler appears to be a saint. So by Judeo-Christian definition, you dont need a Satan- you already got Jehovah!

That is a pretty imature responce really i mean yes the God in the old testament is tyrent that you in many ways would excpect from a ruler of that time. however I do happen too think that that the traditional christian god is an old fashioned throwback to the age of kings whare people worshiped and felt inferior to others.

[steds]

Originally Posted by C_C

The Judeo Christian God, by his own 'book' ( Bible) is a total evil despotic idiot against whom even hitler appears to be a saint. So by Judeo-Christian definition, you dont need a Satan- you already got Jehovah!

Hey, arsewipe. Would you care to start again without the biased, baseless sh*te you're spouting and try to put forth your flame bait a little less like the bitter little nob you are?

[C_C]

Btw- i dont view the existance of evil as a contradiction towards the existance of God.
In nature, we find that everything exists in a balance and as such, logically, there should be a balance between what we call 'good' and 'evil'- as long as the good guys have a lil advantage, i am happy with it.

[C_C]

Originally Posted by steds

Hey, arsewipe. Would you care to start again without the biased, baseless sh*te you're spouting and try to put forth your flame bait a little less like the bitter little nob you are?

Its not a flamebait, i can justify my opinion that the Judeo-Christian God is a total tyrant psychopath-basically a worse version of Hitler with unlimited power. I can justify it from the bible itself.
I would think that genocide, racism, favouritism, inconsistency, etc. all fit the definition of a total tyrant and psychopath.
And you are the one sounding in denial and a bitter lil knob here.....i drew a conclusion- a rather direct, no holds barred conclusion that is justified by the most basic definition of decency, common sense and compassion. The Judeo Christian God is nothing more than a petulant child with serious mental problems and unlimited power to me. Very much like one of those archetypal young ceasarions that grew up without proper supervision.

[PY]

Originally Posted by C_C

The Judeo Christian God, by his own 'book' ( Bible) is a total evil despotic idiot against whom even hitler appears to be a saint. So by Judeo-Christian definition, you dont need a Satan- you already got Jehovah!

That's pretty tactless to be honest mate and not the least bit insulting to quite a few people including myself.

Your efforts at a next post are probably as horrific. I think it also shows a deep lack of understanding of the Bible with what you say, I don't mind (don't like but different things) people saying they don't believe in it but to say what you say and try and say that's based on the Bible shows IMO a lack of knowledge. I'm not going to go into a full debate because it's pretty obvious that it won't go anywhere with your stance and attitude.

I've had plenty of good debates with people on here and I'd like to think that they don't regard me as a complete idiot and I've always respected their beliefs and I'd ask that you respect mine as well.

[C_C]

Please.
Why does everyone who disagree with your viewpoint automtically boils down to 'you dont understand it enough?' FYI, i have read the bible and i think- respectfully i might add- that it is an inconsistent book that paints a very poor picture of this so-called 'God'. If you want me to debate theology with you, i have no problems with it. I dont make up my mind without researching the topic and i wont claim to be a bible scholar- but i have read it more thoroughly and debated it more thoroughly than most christians.You can begin by explaining why i should consider worshipping some entity who is racist, is a genocider and swings back and forth between kindness and utter brutality. I would also like to know why i should worship an entity that is so insecure in his/its/hers power to demand meaningless worship.
And one last thing- i respect your right to believe in anything you want. You canYou can start worshipping Snow white and her seven dwarves..but i still think that it is crap.

[Robertinho]

Not believing in God, I really have nothing to say (except that C_C has managed to outdo himself again )

[Anil]

Originally Posted by Pothas

One of the most common argument against God is the existance of evil.

...the most common argument against god is the lack of any credible proof about the existence of god...

[steds]

As opposed to the huge piles of evidence that God doesn't exist?

[Anil]

Originally Posted by steds

As opposed to the huge piles of evidence that God doesn't exist?

absolutely..so glad you got the point!!!

[steds]

Like what?