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    Pat Robertson - New Ayatollah ?

    Robertson: U.S. should assassinate Venezuela's Chavez
    State Department says comment 'inappropriate'

    Tuesday, August 23, 2005; Posted: 1:44 p.m. EDT (17:44 GMT)

    (CNN) -- Christian broadcaster Pat Robertson has called for the United States to assassinate Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, calling him "a terrific danger" bent on exporting Communism and Islamic extremism across the Americas.

    "If he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it," Robertson told viewers on his "The 700 Club" show Monday. "It's a whole lot cheaper than starting a war."

    Venezuelan Vice President Jose Vicente Rangel accused Robertson of making terrorist statements and demanded that the United States take action, according to The Associated Press.

    "The ball is in the U.S. court after this criminal statement by a citizen of that country," AP quoted Rangel as saying. "It's huge hypocrisy to maintain this discourse against terrorism and at the same time, in the heart of that country, there are entirely terrorist statements like those."

    State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said that Robertson is a private citizen and that his views do not reflect U.S. policy.

    "We do not share his view and his comments are inappropriate," he said. "And as we've said before, any allegations that we are planning to take hostile action against the Venezuelan government are completely baseless and without fact."

    Robertson, a contender for the Republican presidential nomination in 1988, called Chavez "a dangerous enemy to our south, controlling a huge pool of oil, that could hurt us badly."

    "We have the ability to take him out, and I think the time has come that we exercise that ability," Robertson said. "We don't need another $200 billion war to get rid of one strong-arm dictator. It's a whole lot easier to have some of the covert operatives do the job and then get it over with."

    Robertson accused Chavez, a left-wing populist with close ties to Cuban President Fidel Castro, of trying to make Venezuela "a launching pad for Communist infiltration and Muslim extremism all over the continent."

    "This is in our sphere of influence, so we can't let this happen," he said.

    Chavez has said he believes the United States is trying to assassinate him, vowing that Venezuela, which accounts for more than 10 percent of U.S. oil imports, would shut off the flow of oil if that happens.

    The Unites States has denied such allegations in the past.

    Executive orders issued by Presidents Ford and Reagan banned political assassinations.

    Robertson's comments Monday were the latest in a string of controversial remarks in recent years by the religious broadcaster and founder of the Christian Coalition.

    Last October, during the heat of the presidential race, Robertson told CNN that during a meeting with President Bush before the invasion of Iraq, the president told him he did not believe there would be casualties. The White House strongly denied the claim.

    In May, during an ABC interview, Robertson ignited a firestorm with his response to a question about whether activist judges were more of a threat to America than terrorists.

    "If they look over the course of 100 years, I think the gradual erosion of the consensus that's held our country together is probably more serious than a few bearded terrorists who fly into buildings," he said.

    Defending his remarks in a letter to Sen. Frank Lautenberg, Robertson insisted he was not being cavalier about the 9/11 attacks. But he also refused to apologize, saying Supreme Court rulings on abortion, religious expression in the public square, ****ography and same-sex marriage "are all of themselves graver dangers in the decades to come than the terrorists which our great nation has defeated in Afghanistan and Iraq."

    A 'nuke' for Foggy Bottom
    In October 2003, Robertson, criticizing the State Department during an interview on "The 700 Club," said "maybe we need a very small nuke thrown off on Foggy Bottom to shake things up," referring to the nickname for the department's headquarters in Washington.

    State Department spokesman Richard Boucher called the remark "despicable."

    In July 2003, Robertson asked his audience to pray for three justices to retire from the Supreme Court so they could be replaced with more conservative jurists. "One justice is 83 years old, another has cancer and another has a heart condition," he said.

    Robertson insisted he was only calling for prayers for the justices to retire and was not asking his followers to pray for their demise.

    In November 2002, Robertson charged that the Muslim holy book, the Quran, incites followers to kill people of other faiths and disputed Bush's characterization of Islam as a religion of peace.

    "It's clear from the teachings of the Quran and also from the history of Islam that it's anything but peaceful," Robertson said in a subsequent interview with CNN. "Of course there are peace-loving Muslims. But at the same time, at the core of this religion ... is jihad, and it is to subject the unbelievers either to forced conversion or death. That's what it teaches."

    http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/08/23/robertson.chavez/

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    Is he the new Ayatollah or what ? What is more scary is that this guy ran for presidency couple of years ago.

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    How does that make him the new Ayatollah?
    Bob is very insane stay away from him

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    That's the guy who agreed that 9/11 was the fault of 'gays and liberals'.

    He has been around for some time now - nutcases like him help us keep our own sanity.

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    the scumbag doesn't wield 1/10 as much power or authority as the ayatollah, so in that way, they aren't similar....but given the way religion is increasingly holding center stage in american politics if the ******* wants to run for president and actually becomes a serious nominee, then we could be in for real trouble....but i don't really see that happening....
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    Im just watching the report on this now very bizare it must be said really does seem like something out of the cold war

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    People like him should be hung by their balls and have chinese nipple torture done on them......on second thoughts, just jail the idiot - he might actually enjoy the torture and hanging by ze balls!

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    I'd be interested to see how he went in the Republican voting for their presidential candidtate...

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    I just saw it on the news... I was shocked..what on earth has gotten into Pat?!.. anyways I've been thinking he is more and more of a nutter recently by the utter sh*t that he's been saying recently.. but I think he's gone overboard this time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SupaFreak2005
    I was shocked..what on earth has gotten into Pat
    you mean he wasn't such an total b@st@rd before...?
    Last edited by Anil; 23-08-2005 at 06:49 PM.

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    Robertson has always been a complete crackpot. I don't think he should face criminal prosecution for his comments as was suggested, but certainly anyone who gives him money while he's saying things like that should be ashamed of themselves.

    I actually laugh every time I hear him say anything, because it reminds me of the brilliant song Frank Zappa did as a "fund raiser for the Pat Robertson Presidential Campaign", Jesus Thinks You're A Jerk.

    With a Ku-Klux muu-muu
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    Quote Originally Posted by vic_orthdox
    I'd be interested to see how he went in the Republican voting for their presidential candidtate...
    It got nixed when he lied about being a marine in combat. Turned out he'd never seen combat and was a bartender.

    I don't know why we're so worried about what Pat Robertson thinks, folks. He's always been a nutjob, and has been passing smoothly into obscurity for years now. He's completely on the outer as far as the Republican party goes, and his 700 Club audience gets about as many viewers in the US these days as "The Alice" does here in Australia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slow Love™
    I don't know why we're so worried about what Pat Robertson thinks, folks. He's always been a nutjob, and has been passing smoothly into obscurity for years now. He's completely on the outer as far as the Republican party goes, and his 700 Club audience gets about as many viewers in the US these days as "The Alice" does here in Australia.
    i saw on cnn that his show got some 14 million viewership in the last couple of weeks...that doesn't sound insignificant to me....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anil
    i saw on cnn that his show got some 14 million viewership in the last couple of weeks...that doesn't sound insignificant to me....
    Yeah. Robertson doesn't have the sway he used to, but a distrubingly large number of people still watch and give money to he and Falwell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anil
    i saw on cnn that his show got some 14 million viewership in the last couple of weeks...that doesn't sound insignificant to me....
    LOL, yeah, if a completely different million people tune in each day. The 700 Club has an average viewership of 1 million, which in a country as big as the US (and with so many people on the religious right) actually isn't that significant in my book.

    The 14 million figure you saw was probably CNN trying to overstate his audience to make the whole thing look bigger than it is. All they've done is multiply the million a day average by two weeks.

    Trust me, the guy's regarded as a fool by almost everyone. He's not particularly dangerous, and blew any mass appeal he might have had years ago.

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    very silly thing to be saying, a worry that such a prominent opinion over in the states is saying things like that.
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