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    9/11 Movie

    http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=54958

    And I thought Sum Of All Fears was pushing it........

    Surely there are less sensitive subjects to cash in on?
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    Hmmm....I actullay felt an adrenaline rush watching the 9/11 attacks happen live, so it might be interesting...
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    Quote Originally Posted by LongHopCassidy
    http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=54958

    And I thought Sum Of All Fears was pushing it........

    Surely there are less sensitive subjects to cash in on?
    It doesn't have to be a money-grabber; what happened that day is unfortunately a part of our history now. More people died in the Holocaust, and there are plenty of movies about that.
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    t doesn't have to be a money-grabber; what happened that day is unfortunately a part of our history now. More people died in the Holocaust, and there are plenty of movies about that.
    This is true but Paramount Studios has grabbed it; it'll be a Blockbuster.

    Who cares anyway? I haven't paid any attention to most Hollywood films of the past 10 years so I don't see why that would change. Certainly not for a film like this.
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    Oliver Stone is directing it, so he might take a somewhat unusual angle. He's known for making films about real life historical issues, but taking unusual angles on it (Nixon with Hopkins playing a man basically completely unhinged, JFK with the conspiricy theories etc). I'm interested to see what he does with it, and provided I don't hear it's complete rubbish I might see it.
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    Yes but Oliver Stone also has a distinct propensity to be somewhat loose with the truth with historical events, JFK being a perfect example. I'm just glad he didn't get his hands on other great political films like Thirteen Days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Top_Cat
    Yes but Oliver Stone also has a distinct propensity to be somewhat loose with the truth with historical events, JFK being a perfect example. I'm just glad he didn't get his hands on other great political films like Thirteen Days.
    That may be true, but he's still an interesting filmmaker, and as such it may be an interesting film. JFK might have some points of historical debate/inaccuracy, but it's still quality viewing because of his unorthodox take on it. Same with Nixon.

    If Spielburg made it, you'd know what to expect (namely, American nationalist sap, a-la Saving Private Ryan). I couldn't tell you right now what Stone would do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LongHopCassidy
    http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=54958

    And I thought Sum Of All Fears was pushing it........

    Surely there are less sensitive subjects to cash in on?
    To be honest if the film wasnt made now it would be some time in the future.. Yes it is an event that happened 4 years ago but it is something i think people will go and see..
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    That may be true, but he's still an interesting filmmaker, and as such it may be an interesting film. JFK might have some points of historical debate/inaccuracy, but it's still quality viewing because of his unorthodox take on it. Same with Nixon.
    I certainly thought that when I saw it but then I saw quality, historically accurate (well, as accurate as Hollywood will allow them to be) films like Thirteen Days and All the Presidents Men (a film about Nixon's activities without having him in it for more than 5 minutes!) and was convinced otherwise. I'm trying not to judge it and the fact Stone has it has definitely piqued my interest a little but the fact a major movie house has commissioned it lends it somewhat less credibility for mine. We shall see.

    That said, I agree that Stone does do some interesting stuff in the pop culture realm. Scarface, certainly, is a fantastic and imaginative look at the Miami drug scene of the 70's which, whilst not based on specific events, a lot of what happened in that fulm happened to real people.

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    Too early to make a movie on 9/11. The wounds of people are still fresh. houlnt have been allowed to make a move on this topic for atleast 10 years after the happening of the event.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Top_Cat
    I certainly thought that when I saw it but then I saw quality, historically accurate (well, as accurate as Hollywood will allow them to be) films like Thirteen Days and All the Presidents Men (a film about Nixon's activities without having him in it for more than 5 minutes!) and was convinced otherwise. I'm trying not to judge it and the fact Stone has it has definitely piqued my interest a little but the fact a major movie house has commissioned it lends it somewhat less credibility for mine. We shall see.

    That said, I agree that Stone does do some interesting stuff in the pop culture realm. Scarface, certainly, is a fantastic and imaginative look at the Miami drug scene of the 70's which, whilst not based on specific events, a lot of what happened in that fulm happened to real people.
    Scarface is great, yes. Natural Born Killers had its problems but I though it was a pretty fun watch too.

    Also, I think it's a bit harsh to compare JFK to All The President's Men, which is probably the best real-life political drama film ever made, and is an absolute peerless masterpiece in many respects. It's like watching every mob gangster film and dismissing it because it's not The Godfather or Raging Bull.

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    Too early to make a movie on 9/11. The wounds of people are still fresh. houlnt have been allowed to make a move on this topic for atleast 10 years after the happening of the event.
    Probably right. Even Black Hawk Down, about a somewhat questionable incursion into Mogadishu, took 10 years for a dramatic move to be made.

    Also, I think it's a bit harsh to compare JFK to All The President's Men, which is probably the best real-life political drama film ever made, and is an absolute peerless masterpiece in many respects. It's like watching every mob gangster film and dismissing it because it's not The Godfather or Raging Bull.
    Firstly, I thought Goodfellas was the most accurate mob film ever. The Godfather trilogy were amazing and faithful to the book but a lot of it was quite dramatic. Goodfellas was just outstanding and based upon a real-life FBI informant (although I'm sure you were well aware).

    And JFK, like All the Presidents Men, was a dramatic depiction of actual events talking about real people from the time (and not making up characters to dramatise real events like, say, Pearl Harbour) and the machinations surrounding the events. Therefore it is easily able to be judged alongside its 'peers' and, to me, it was quite loose with the truth, particularly concerning the roles of the key players in Garrison's investigation and court case. Obviously there were more 'key players' in JFK which would have made ensuring the correct details vs dramatic effect balance difficult to maintain (All the Presidents Men concentrated on Woodword, Berstein and their editor as well as Deep Throat) but still, it was more style than substance. All the Presidents Men was bordering on nerdy and needless to say, that's why I loved it. Incidentally I'm reading G Gordon Liddy's book 'Will'; an amazing man even if I fundamentally disagree with just about all of his politics and he was on the wrong side of the whole Watergate thing.

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    Oliver Stone is something of a shadow of the film-maker he was from '86 to '89 (from Salvador to Born on the Fourth of July) - back then he was hardcore, and his visual talent was matched by an ability to make films that seemed to really matter. Apparently he's done some docos in recent times on Israel/Palestine and Fidel Castro that are worth a look.

    Can't see (given the synopsis) that this film has much to offer to him, so I kinda wonder if his name will stay associated with the project. Sounds more like a disaster movie, but with terrorists - if so, it probably WOULD be better if Spielberg made it, particularly if it's going to ask us to identify with or emotionally invest in one or two characters. A bit harsh to dismiss Saving Private Ryan as "nationalistic sap" though.
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    very very dodgy imo, its far to close to the actual date of when the travesty took place, this could potentially be extremely offensive, crude and upsetting to those who lost relatives or friends in the attacks and a whole load of other people, i can only hope that it is done tastefully and is not just a cash cow, i dont want to see it as some stupid film that is american propaganda in disguise like some of the recent movies *cough* star wars, war of the worlds etc...*

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    I agree holywood might put a rather nasty gloss on it but if done well it could be a very powerull film, although can you get any more powerull and horrific than the images we already have of the event itself

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