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    Karla Homolka Released

    http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117...-38198,00.html

    For the crime boffins amongst us, here's the story of Karla Homolka and Paul Bernardo at Crime Library:

    http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_k...o/index_1.html

    WARNING: The story of these two characters is pretty graphic. Although not showing any photos in that story, it's pretty sick stuff so watch out or don't read the article if that stuff disturbs you.

    Read that and then answer; should Homolka have been released?

    Personally, no. I've read the Crime Library version as well as the 300 page criminological and legal analysis of their crimes and I think although somewhat under the spell of her husband, she was almost as sick as he was and although maybe less of a danger these days, 12 years was a manifestly inadequate sentence for such horrific crimes.

    So what does everyone think?
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    Karla Homolka is in Quebec. I think you're safe from her.

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    Paul Bernardo used to do the Accounting for my Aunts workplace ...... that was pretty scary for all of us.


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    That is gruesome, and the deal that was set up was even sicker.

    I cannot believe twelve years is all she got, and by the looks of it, better conditions than Bernardo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Top_Cat
    Read that and then answer; should Homolka have been released?
    Uhhhh...... No.

    That was really disturbing (have you ever noticed how gratuitous that Crime Library site is - you feel like you need a shower afterwards), and brought to mind the Myra Hindley/Ian Brady "Moors murders" of the 60's. Horrid - I never heard of the case before, although I think I remember the "Law and Order" episode that used elements of it.

    One thing puzzles me though - is it the case that the prosecutors didn't make a condition of Homolka's deal a frank disclosure as to her part in the crimes? 'Cause it looks to me like the video footage largely refuted her characterisation of the dynamics between herself and Barnardo...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Top_Cat
    http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117...-38198,00.html

    For the crime boffins amongst us, here's the story of Karla Homolka and Paul Bernardo at Crime Library:

    http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_k...o/index_1.html

    Read that and then answer; should Homolka have been released?
    You've posted this before I think? Or a link to the site. Fascinating stuff there, and I agree, Homolka should not have been released.

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    Rather disturbing that she's been let out. Still, she receives some form of punishment from the fact that no-one will forget what she did and she has that stigma attached to her for the rest of her life.
    Last edited by vic_orthdox; 05-07-2005 at 07:42 PM. Reason: I hadn't read the whole thing when I made my first post.

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    That was really disturbing (have you ever noticed how gratuitous that Crime Library site is - you feel like you need a shower afterwards), and brought to mind the Myra Hindley/Ian Brady "Moors murders" of the 60's. Horrid - I never heard of the case before, although I think I remember the "Law and Order" episode that used elements of it.
    It is gratuitous in a way. I think they get access to Police incident/arrest reports because the style they use in describing the acts committed by perps vaguely resembles those sorts of reports. Certainly, the murder ones do. Obviously real reports are far more graphic and detailed with everything about the crime being recorded but the Crime Library site is more detailed than most sites on some article. On others, it's pretty vague. The range of writing talent for the site varies greatly it would seem.

    One thing puzzles me though - is it the case that the prosecutors didn't make a condition of Homolka's deal a frank disclosure as to her part in the crimes? 'Cause it looks to me like the video footage largely refuted her characterisation of the dynamics between herself and Barnardo...
    Well, there's a reason it was termed the 'Deal With the Devil'. As for whether it refuted it, well the short answer is 'not enough for the jury to convict her of murder'. There was a lot about her behaviour which was implied (i.e. she 'might' have killed the girls after the videos were made) but certainly the jury seemed to choose to concentrate on knocking Bernardo on the head because they had video footage of exactly what crimes he committed whereas with Homolka, they could strongly imply her role but no direct irrefutable proof existed. Certainly, though, the jury should have been instructed that the deal did NOT excuse her in any way but only made the conviction of Bernrdo more certain.

    From what I've read, she did tell them everything (making the conviction against Bernardo a damn certainty) but the issue was whether she committed what she did out of warped devotion and fear to Bernardo or whether she was a key player in organising and disposing of the girls in the videos. The jury, having watched the videos, took the position that the whole thing was co-ordinated and manipulated by Bernardo, Homolka being a willing but entirely manipulated party to the offences. I've read transcripts and seen photo stills of the videos and it is impossible NOT to take the position that Paul Bernardo was the dominant player in the two murders but it's equally difficult to dismiss her role as that of slave-like wife. I think she knew exactly what she was doing.

    Rather disturbing that she's been let out. Still, she receives some form of punishment from the fact that no-one will forget what she did and she has that stigma attached - albeit a less harrowing form of retribution.
    Not to mention the constant threat of being murdered herself. If she lasts 2 years outside of prison, then maybe nothing will happen to her - IF she lasts two years.

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    I need to get one thing straight (I can't be bothered going back through it all). The police and prosecutors had no access to the videos while Homolka was making the deal? Because surely they wouldn't have needed to bargain with her if they had the videos?

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    I need to get one thing straight (I can't be bothered going back through it all). The police and prosecutors had no access to the videos while Homolka was making the deal? Because surely they wouldn't have needed to bargain with her if they had the videos?
    The RCMP raided both their houses and came up with Bernardo's written description of a rape series he perpetrated (with Karla's blessing and encouragement) as well as a video of her with another woman. The deal was made during her trial and the tapes came to light just in time for his trial, once hers was done and dusted, and was used as evidence of HIS guilt. Certainly those tapes may well have made the deal redundant.

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    Both their lives should have been forfeit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beleg
    Both their lives should have been forfeit.
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