What religion are you?

[FaaipDeOiad]

Originally Posted by age_master

ofcourse it was inspired by God, why does it have to be in the same order? why is it so important to you that its not?

You don't see the importance? Think about it this way - if you read a scientific theory about any issue you like, and within one short piece of text you discovered obvious contradictions with readily apparent scientific facts that virtually everybody in the world accepts, AND that the text was inconsistent with itself and contains contradictions, wouldn't this bring into question the validity of the theory?

Literal interpretationists claim that the creation story as recounted in Genesis is the literal, absolute truth of how the Universe was created. An omnipotent God sat down and over 6 days in a particular order created the main elements of the world and life upon it, and made the rest of the universe in relation to it. They also believe that God directly inspired anywhere from one person to many with this story and directed them to write it down so that the world would know how it was created. There is even a science built around this, called creation science. Given that, it is obviously of vital significance if the text of Genesis is ambiguous in its translation (how long was a day, how many Gods were involved etc), and contains contradictions about the method and order of things.

If you believe, as many Christians do, that the Bible is simply a series of human-written stories discussing the nature of God, the life of Jesus and supporting an ethical philosophy known as Christianity, obviously these minute details in Genesis are of minimal significance, or none at all. If Creationism is a scientifically valid, inerrant and factual recounting of how the Universe was created, one has to look at the specifics and see how they show up in the real world. If nothing else, if Genesis is right there are a lot of problems with commonly understood scientific theories that must be addressed.

[Piper]

Originally Posted by Legglancer

Yes I am in total agreement .... when all religion's in the world have advocated tolerance and goodwill towards man ..... we have a few judgemental fools with extreamist views who create all these problems.

Thats the reason I am quick to point out the ignorant harshly judgemental openions of people like "Age-Master" who take it upon themselves to sef righteously condemn others due to their one dimensional views when in the Bible it says ... those without Sin cast the first stone !

Its never gonna happen, sadly, but i guess we can hope for it...

[age_master]

Originally Posted by FaaipDeOiad

I do look at the context

you look at abit of it, certainly alot more than other people around here do

[age_master]

Originally Posted by FaaipDeOiad

one short piece of text you discovered obvious contradictions

once again your inventing contradictions by not thinking about the context that Genisis 2 was written in.

[age_master]

Originally Posted by FaaipDeOiad

This is a perfect example of example how the Bible is ambiguous, and despite many people looking into it who have "studied the context" (whatever that means), there is no concensus on what it means. The NASV claims it means homosexuals, others have said it means male prostitutes, and there are other interpretations as well. In the KJV it is the equally ambiguous "abusers of themselves with mankind". So explain to me, what is the context I am missing from this passage that would suddenly bring clarity to its meaning?

i didn't say it was easy did i, i dont claim to have all the answers... however i can tell you...

Homosexuality is a sin, as is all other sex outside of marriage.

[Piper]

Ok people im sick of u arguing over the Bible... people have different view points about so what? Who cares?

[age_master]

Originally Posted by FaaipDeOiad

and the literal translation of that word is "soft men". What does it mean?

my best estimation is that its talking about sexually immoral practices - no wether thats male prostitution, homosexuality, adultery in general i dont know.

my bible ha refs to Eph 5:5, Romans 1:26 Matthew 25:35, Job 13:9, Gal 6:7, Jas 1:16, Lev 18:20, Dt 22:22 and Lev 18:22 do some research for yourself

[age_master]

Originally Posted by Piper

Ok people im sick of u arguing over the Bible... people have different view points about so what? Who cares?

dont read this thread than, though if you want we could begin to discuss the holes in his scientific theories or we could look at the Qu'ran or the 8 fold path?

i enjoy debating with him

[Piper]

Originally Posted by age_master

dont read this thread than, though if you want we could begin to discuss the holes in his scientific theories or we could look at the Qu'ran or the 8 fold path?

i enjoy debating with him

Man i hate testosterone lol

[age_master]

its got nothing to do with testosterone, your more than welcome to debate with either one of us if you think there is too much flying around though

[Piper]

Originally Posted by age_master

its got nothing to do with testosterone, your more than welcome to debate with either one of us if you think there is too much flying around though

Lol i think i will leave the debating to u and Andrew coz i think its funny, but if i have an opinion on the suject i will make sure that i make it lol

[benchmark00]

Originally Posted by Piper

Man i hate testosterone lol

Man i hate whoever started this thread..... Oh wait...

[FaaipDeOiad]

Originally Posted by age_master

dont read this thread than, though if you want we could begin to discuss the holes in his scientific theories

Go on then. They aren't MY scientific theories of course, but those of the scientific community as a whole, but if you want to debate with me about whether or not the world is flat or if light comes from the sun, go for it.

[Piper]

Originally Posted by benchmark00

Man i hate whoever started this thread..... Oh wait...

Heyy!!!!

[benchmark00]

Originally Posted by Piper

Heyy!!!!

Who? Me!?