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Old 19-04-2005, 08:47 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I can't see how i can be gone after i die, there will probably be another me in another world and i just live this same life again but can make different choices?
Are you sure of that ?
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Old 19-04-2005, 08:55 PM   #32 (permalink)
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This poor chap isn`t sure of too much really. He remembers his name though. That`s good.
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Old 19-04-2005, 08:57 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Are you sure of that ?

What do you mean that by?
I meant once (if) I die then I can't imagine me going away, I will probably be born in another world but everything is the same and everything is like it was before but I can make differenct choices to what i have made in this life.
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Old 19-04-2005, 08:59 PM   #34 (permalink)
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What do you mean that by?
I meant once (if) I die then I can't imagine me going away, I will probably be born in another world but everything is the same and everything is like it was before but I can make differenct choices to what i have made in this life.
I meant do you think that definitely happens when one dies or you are not sure but think its a possibility.
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Old 19-04-2005, 09:02 PM   #35 (permalink)
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I think its a possibity, how can I know for sure, But I don't beleive i will be gone after (if I die)
I also have this theory that I am the only real person.
How can there be billions of people that can think and have different lives like me.
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Old 19-04-2005, 09:12 PM   #36 (permalink)
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I think its a possibity, how can I know for sure, But I don't beleive i will be gone after (if I die)
I also have this theory that I am the only real person.
How can there be billions of people that can think and have different lives like me.
Thats very interesting and , if one looks at it in a particular way, very philosophical...even spiritual.

I am serious. Well said.
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Old 19-04-2005, 09:34 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Thats very interesting and , if one looks at it in a particular way, very philosophical...even spiritual.

I am serious. Well said.

The first bit was, as for the second..........
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Old 19-04-2005, 09:49 PM   #39 (permalink)
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Thats very interesting and , if one looks at it in a particular way, very philosophical...even spiritual.

I am serious. Well said.
do you mind tell me why you felt it was philosophical or spiritual?
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Old 19-04-2005, 09:59 PM   #40 (permalink)
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I'm not atheist and I'm not religious. I don't care about religion - I don't have any real thoughts about religion whatsoever. Whereas being an atheist means you believe there's no God etc., I don't really know or care.

Though I'm going to a Presbyterian school, and they're brainwashing me (if you want to know why, just ask! )
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That's agnostic, innit?
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That's agnostic, innit?
yep, more or less....
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Whereas being an atheist means you believe there's no God etc., I don't really know or care.
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That's agnostic, innit?
Not exactly. Atheist means exactly what it sounds like it means... a-theist... free from theism, hence free from religion and religious beliefs, or free from a belief in God. That's not exactly the same thing as actively disbelieving in God (small distinction I know). It's sort of a misconception that it means something as simple as "there is no god", because that in itself is a religious belief.

Agnostic means that you are uncertain about the existance of God, but not that you simply don't care OR that you disbelieve it specifically. Athiest is usually used to describe both those who don't care and those who actively disbelieve in God, but that's something of a misuse of the term, as the meaning should be roughly "free from theism and religious beliefs".

The word you're looking for is probably areligious, which Webster's defines as "not practicing a religion; indifferent to or uninfluenced by a religion". Pretty much exactly what Robertinho described.

Anyway, my family is historically Anglican, and I was christened, but I was raised Athiest and am Agnostic by belief.
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Meh, take your pick.

a·the·ism Audio pronunciation of "atheism" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (th-zm)
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1. Disbelief in or denial of the existence of God or gods.
2. The doctrine that there is no God or gods.
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ag·nos·tic Audio pronunciation of "agnostic" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (g-nstk)
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1. One who believes that it is impossible to know whether there is a God.
2. One who is skeptical about the existence of God but does not profess true atheism.
2. One who is doubtful or noncommittal about something.


Main Entry: areligious
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Definition: not practicing a religion; indifferent to or uninfluenced by a religion
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I also have this theory that I am the only real person.
How can there be billions of people that can think and have different lives like me.
That's called narcissism, and it's a condition, not a religion.

I'm agnostic - to me many atheists conform to a belief structure and devotion not unlike that of a religion. I can accept the idea of a god (or gods) were it proven, but it'd be pretty funny if they conformed or were party to the changing social reasons we've used their name and stories in service of. Most likely if creator-like superior life-forms were to exist, they're uninterested in intervening in our affairs - if they are, and they meddle, well, that's got be a real worry and certainly shouldn't be a precursor to worship.
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