So The General election is in a few weeks sooo..

[vasetti12]

If you were an MP, write a little paragraph or two for why people should vote for you.

If I became PM i would make cricket the main sport in schools etc..something like that.

[Swervy]

If I were PM, I would move this over to Off Topic.maybe this might be seen as an abuse of my governmental powers, but tough

[age_master]

yeah this is a little OT, unless everyone wants togive cricket more money

[Don]

if i were pm i would move the election date to sometime in december

he is ruining my life even though im not in egland.bcuz of this my best friend is leaving and ill never see her again.damn u blair damn u

[luckyeddie]

Policy and Official Manifesto of the Beer Party

None of the other so-called parties even give you jelly or paper hats, let alone beer. How on earth they can get away with calling themselves parties is beyond me.

We in the Beer Party recognise that we are starting a little behind the others, but we feel that there is plenty of opportunity for us to top up - er, I mean catch up, before closing time - no, the election! Sorry.

We promish to be generoush in victory and magnamin... mangamino.... nice in de pub - sorry, deFEAT. No matter how bitter our opponents, we will be stout. We will keep our heads, even down to the lasht drop.

The symbols of our party will represent the partnership of brains and brawn, and it will be seen to unite the entire country. To appeal to those engaged in activities of the mind, we will chant the mantra "We are Mental" and to you we dedicate THE BROW as your avatar. Similarly, to those heroes of the working classes for whom the grindstone is your lot, we borrow from socialism, at least in part. Not for us the hammer, the oppressor, more the victim - the symbolism of THE NAIL.

Put them together and what do you have?

BROW NAIL.

I'm shorry. What wash the queshtion again?

[Langeveldt]

If I was in charge..

+ Pull our troops out of Iraq.. No more money for George's little jihhad.. Money goes back to having a heavy police presence on the streets.. Especially in the evenings

+ More rights for the victims of crime.. OAP's shouldn't have to live in fear of the lout culture that permeates this fast going down the pan society.. More rights to the teachers and leaders who have to put up with it.. And more money to the nurses who have to put up with antisocial behaviour/drunken violence when the goons reach hospital

+ Raise on VAT but a reduction in tax on demerit good (ciggies/petrol)

+ Stop the building of new major roads, instead put the money into maintaining our worn out old ones (and our public transport)

+ Stop the increase in pensions and winter fuel allowance.. Back into the police/prisons service

+ Homes for asylum seekers willing to be accepted into the workplace.. A reduction in the minimum wage to make Britain a more attractive country to manufacture in

+ Honesty, Raised taxes will be explained and not "spun away"

[Neil Pickup]

+ Pulling out of Iraq will not help anything but further destabilise the pit that is already there. The UK has to stay until its own mess is stable again

+ Stop reading the Daily Mail and get back to reality for a second. Chavs have been here forever, just with different names.

+ Stupid, stupid, stupid. Raising VAT is uttterly baseless and without result except for distribution the tax burden back onto the poor.

+ Pensioners are gonna love you, aren't they?

+ As well as poor people, who now get lower wages as well as paying more VAT

You've not thought that through at all.

[Langeveldt]

+ Pulling out of Iraq will not help anything but further destabilise the pit that is already there. The UK has to stay until its own mess is stable again

+ Stop reading the Daily Mail and get back to reality for a second. Chavs have been here forever, just with different names.

+ Stupid, stupid, stupid. Raising VAT is uttterly baseless and without result except for distribution the tax burden back onto the poor.

+ Pensioners are gonna love you, aren't they?

+ As well as poor people, who now get lower wages as well as paying more VAT

You've not thought that through at all.

Raising VAT is a way of paying for better services though.. Im sure pensioners will love me when they actually see a policeman on their walk through town..

Okay "chavs" (I mean petty criminals) have been around since the beginning of time, but I don't know of a society so powerless to do anything about them..

[marc71178]

I apply to join LE's party.

[Neil Pickup]

Well, across the Atlantic, the petty crime is gun killings. I'm certainly thinking there's a degree more control here for one...

There's a much better way of paying for services, it's called income tax. A raise in VAT will hit the poorer members of society far harder than the better off, whereas a higher top rate of income tax will hit the better off harder. It's not rocket science. Personally, I'd abolish VAT, it's no good for anything, and introduce higher income and profit taxes.

The pensioners will like seeing the policemen but they won't like freezing their pants off at home.

[luckyeddie]

The whole idea of VAT is that it is a tax on everybody and pretty well everything essential (ok, food and chindren's clothes apart) - and consequently the poor pay a much higher level of VAT relative to their gross earnings.

It was actually advocated in The Times today that there ought to be a single tax rate (I think the figure of 25% was mentioned but I couldn't be sure) - no mention of thresholds at all. Of course, whereas The Mail and Express is the paper of choice for many a Tory (and UKIP), The Times has of late been trying to distance itself from some of the more extreme Michael 'Poll Tax' Howard (aka 'unelectable') policies and have even been feting some liberal policies, it didn't take long for them to return to type.

[Scaly piscine]

Hmm ok...

# Criminals lose some of their "human rights" - you have to act like a human being to have those. Also alter the way prison works, someone goes to prison they should start with NO privileges and no virtually automatic parole halfway through their sentence - you should have to work particularly hard to get either.

# Only take in immigrants to fill skill shortages, everyone else can go somewhere that isn't overpopulated.

# Transfer fees in sport taxed - you can avoid this with swap deals but you'd still raise plenty of revenue

# No benefits for 3rd, 4th and so on child - excludes when someone has multiple births (like if someone has 1 child then there's twins/triplets then that's ok - but not if you already have 2 kids and then get pregnant again)

# Proportional representation brought in

# Raise the top rate of income tax a little

# More Scrabble, cricket, first aid, sign language and computing in schools - less 'careers', drama, RE and foreign languages (they're not much use to most people, let alone should they be forced upon EVERYONE)

# A clear public sector index to indicate relative worth. So you might have like for instance firefighter 2.5, secondary school teacher 2.2, nurse 1.9 whatever. The index value never changes (apart from if there's a shortage) and everyone in the public sector gets the same % rise. I think this would stop strikes etc. to an extent because if someone wanted more pay they would have to argue that they're even more valuable than someone else - rather than 'I don't get paid enough' you're providing a comparison where you have to effectively discredit everyone else to get more money.


That'll do for now until I get bored again

[luckyeddie]

I apply to join LE's party.

You can be Home Ales Secretary

[Scaly piscine]

# Transfer fees in sport taxed - you can avoid this with swap deals but you'd still raise plenty of revenue

That should read taxed even more if they already are taxed, which I've no idea if they are. Also only refers to when a club in this country is paying the fee, not if it's a foreign club/team.

[luckyeddie]

That should read taxed even more if they already are taxed, which I've no idea if they are. Also only refers to when a club in this country is paying the fee, not if it's a foreign club/team.

Transfer fees are taxed the same as everything else is - in theory. The clubs are taxed on profits, so the object of the exercise for those who aren't publicly quoted is to spend what comes in before the end of the fiscal year. No profit, no tax (other than PAYE on wages, of course) - but no Corporation Tax.