Another US High school killing

[age_master]

Eight dead in US high school shooting
11:48 AEDT Tue Mar 22 2005


AP - Eight people have been killed in a US high school shooting, with the suspect believed to be among the dead, the FBI have said.

Local police deputy chief Tom Lyons said up to 14 other people were injured in the mid-afternoon shooting at Red Lake High School in far northern Minnesota.

The school is located on a Native Indian reservation and has more than 300 students, according to its website.

Local media reported that the shooter killed his grandfather before going to the school with three guns. He then reportedly shot a security guard outside the school before entering the school and opening fire on students.

The shooter then killed himself, press reports said.

Audrey Thayer, who lives in Bemidji and works as a researcher for the American Civil Liberties Union's Minnesota chapter, said the reservation was locked down by police with roadblocks.

"They have got it closed off," she said.

The reservation is about 390 kilometres north of Minneapolis/St Paul. It is home to the Red Lake Band of Chippewa Indians.

©AAP 2005

dont have any idea what could drive anyone to do this sort of thing

[Buddhmaster]

Jeez, why does this stuff happen so often?

[cricket player]

Jeez I forgot to say that usa is a free country,You have freedom you can do anything you want,just go to a school and kill young teenage students,sorry to say that but **** the way children are raised in usa.

[Tom Halsey]

Erm, no, you aren't free to kill people.

[12th Man]

makes me glad to be english

[_Ed_]

They really need to look at their gun laws. It annoys me when I see people on TV say they should be free to have a gun without needing a licence. It really wouldn't take that much of their time and effort to get a licence, and it should make horrible occurrences like these much less frequent because firearms aren't so freely available.

[andyc]

Originally Posted by 12th Man

makes me glad to be english

doesnt mean there are less tormented teenagers, though

[andyc]

Originally Posted by _Ed_

They really need to look at their gun laws. It annoys me when I see people on TV say they should be free to have a gun without needing a licence. It really wouldn't take that much of their time and effort to get a licence, and it should make horrible occurrences like these much less frequent because firearms aren't so freely available.

and its not as if you see drivers complaining about their licences, and how theyre against the constitution.

edit: for an article on it, go to http://www.smh.com.au/news/World/15y...254018247.html

[_Ed_]

Yeah exactly.

[Langeveldt]

You reap what you sow my American friends....

[BoyBrumby]

Here's what the late, great Bill Hicks had to say on the topic of the respective gun laws of England & the US back in 1991:

No one has handguns in England, not even the cops. True or false? True. Now-in England last year, they had fourteen deaths from handguns. FFFFFourteen. Now-the United States, and I think you know how we feel about handguns-woooo, I'm getting a warm tingly feeling just saying the f*cking word, to be honest with you. I swear to you, I am hard. Twenty-three thousand deaths from handguns. Now let's go through those numbers again, because they're a little baffling at first glance. England, where no one has guns, fffffffourteen deaths. United States, and I think you know how we feel about guns-woooo, I'm getting a stiffy-twenty-three thousand deaths from handguns. But there's no connection, and you'd be a fool and a Communist to make one. There's no connection between having a gun and shooting someone with it, and not having a gun and not shooting someone. There have been studies made and there is no connection at all there. Yes. That's absolute proof. You know, fourteen deaths from handguns. Probably American tourists, too.
(Angry tourist voice) You call this a sandwich? BANG! BANG! You don't boil pizza! BANG! BANG!
(Scared English voice) That's the way we eat here, that's the way we eat here! BANG!
(Tourist voice) This food sucks! BANG!

[Scaly piscine]

I'm sure there's a happy medium between the oppressive gun laws in Britain and the seemingly nonexistent gun laws in America. Every time some muppet blinds someone with an air rifle there's the usual outcry to ban all air rifles completely. May as well ban anything not packed with 2 inches of bubblewrap around it because some moron will inevitably injure someone else with it.

[age_master]

agreed.

its definatley not in the right to carry guns for mine, its the mentality, we cant protect people from
everything.

recently we had a huge problem in Australia with public liability insurance. people suing local councils for millions because the dove into a sandbar at the beach drunk. same sort of thing in essence, without the violence.

[Son Of Coco]

Originally Posted by Scaly piscine

I'm sure there's a happy medium between the oppressive gun laws in Britain and the seemingly nonexistent gun laws in America. Every time some muppet blinds someone with an air rifle there's the usual outcry to ban all air rifles completely. May as well ban anything not packed with 2 inches of bubblewrap around it because some moron will inevitably injure someone else with it.

I think there's a slight difference though with a handgun. If you point it at someone and pull the trigger you can be fairly certain that you're going to do them some serious injury (unless you're a terrible shot of course).

What annoys me is that you talk to someone from the U.S and you hear about their 'right to bare arms' etc etc etc, but I don't think the constitution allowed for people's inability to store them properly and keep them out of the reach of kids etc. I think the constituiton referred to 'the right to bare arms when threatened' anyway, not indiscriminantly. I talked to an american guy here in Australia who had 9 guns in his house, which is ridiculous. If you're going to presume that most people are intelligent enough to own a gun responsibly in the first place then you're paving the way for this sort of thing to happen.

[chris.hinton]

This is really bad