The Gay Marriage Debate

[Son Of Coco]

Originally Posted by broncoman

these people have parades and celebrate the fact they are gay, whats gonna happen when they get more rights like marriage and adoption... no thanks...

God you're right! Everyone will be gay...it'll be like the army back in the days of conscription. Then they'll inject us with a drug and our minds will get narrower, and narrower, and narrower, and...

[Slats4ever]

i question u even understand what marriage even is.... it's a religious celebration of the coming together of two people under God. Nowadays it has almost got to the stage of being commercialised now where people can elope in las vegas.

[age_master]

Originally Posted by LongHopCassidy

Old Testament or New?

they are the same.... (you have to read the whole thing in context to understand everything though )

[Son Of Coco]

Originally Posted by lord_of_darkness

Too true.. a nation is built on its religious moral values.. in case of countries like USA, UK, NZ, Aus ( Most western Countries ) the Bible.. which strictly states about the marriage sanctity between a man and women and doesnt regard of gay marriages or union well at all.. ..

Does it actually say anything about being anti-gay marriage? Or just that it's between a man and a woman?

[Slats4ever]

Originally Posted by broncoman

these people have parades and celebrate the fact they are gay, whats gonna happen when they get more rights like marriage and adoption... no thanks...

u took the words right out've my mouth... it must've been while u were kissing me

[Son Of Coco]

Originally Posted by Slats4ever

i question u even understand what marriage even is.... it's a religious celebration of the coming together of two people under God. Nowadays it has almost got to the stage of being commercialised now where people can elope in las vegas.

Isn't what it represents up to the two people involved these days though? Getting married in a church has become more of a tradition than a representation of religious beliefs.

[Slats4ever]

Originally Posted by Son Of Coco

Does it actually say anything about being anti-gay marriage? Or just that it's between a man and a woman?

If you read the story about Sodom and Gamherroa or however it's spelt u'll find out that the Bible condones gays.

[Slats4ever]

Originally Posted by Son Of Coco

Isn't what it represents up to the two people involved these days though? Getting married in a church has become more of a tradition than a representation of religious beliefs.

it really depends on the indiviual son of coco. I feel that like what nibbs suggested earlier instead of marriage their should be some legal bond... where people who aren't placing religious importance on their marriage can still have the same rights... however marriage is a religious celebration imho

[andyc]

Originally Posted by Slats4ever

it really depends on the indiviual son of coco. I feel that like what nibbs suggested earlier instead of marriage their should be some legal bond... where people who aren't placing religious importance on their marriage can still have the same rights... however marriage is a religious celebration imho

exactly- it depends on the individual, so what it means to you wont mean the same to everyone else, which is why i feel its wrong to prevent one certain group of people from getting married.

[Slats4ever]

but i then question if those people know and appreciate the history and what is involved with the actual marriage service!! hmmm the more i think abuot it the mroe i'm starting to come around to the other side's views though!!! I just think their should be some distinction between religious marriage and non religious ones

[Simon]

the problems will start when gay marriages are allowed, where will it end, in 20 years will u be allowed to marry your cousin, in 50 years u can marry your siblings and in 100 years u can marry a parent. It may not go that far, but whos to say it wont happen...

[lord_of_darkness]

Does it actually say anything about being anti-gay marriage? Or just that it's between a man and a woman?

Yes it does say something about anti-gay marriage.. or 1 man being with another.. ill get one of the proverbs soon..

[BoyBrumby]

Originally Posted by Slats4ever

If you read the story about Sodom and Gamherroa or however it's spelt u'll find out that the Bible condones gays.

I'm pretty certain the Bible doesn't condone homosexuality, at least not explicitly. In the OT it's pretty anti "thou shalt not lay down with a man as with a woman, that is detestable".

Bringing religion into the debate sort of presupposes we're all religious; I'm an agnostic & my girlfriend is an atheist, should we be denied the right to marriage too?

Denying gay people the right to marriage also denies them pension, insurance & inheritance rights.

[lord_of_darkness]

Bringing religion into the debate sort of presupposes we're all religious; I'm an agnostic & my girlfriend is an atheist, should we be denied the right to marriage too?

No its aiite.. cauz its a male and female ..

[andyc]

Originally Posted by broncoman

the problems will start when gay marriages are allowed, where will it end, in 20 years will u be allowed to marry your cousin, in 50 years u can marry your siblings and in 100 years u can marry a parent. It may not go that far, but whos to say it wont happen...

That’s a pretty weak argument in my opinion- just because someones gay doesn’t meant theyre marrying their relatives. Such relations are disallowed because resulting children often have deformities. Nothing like that comes out of a gay marriage. Allowing gay marriage doesn’t mean a sudden decrease in the value of marriage, more that the world is coming to recognise there are gay people out there, they’re always going to be there and theres nothing wrong with it.