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Old 23-02-2013, 06:00 AM   #391 (permalink)
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Hmm. Someone's changed their tune.

Edit: Dreadful read this thread, granted most of the posts were made the best part of a decade ago, but still, deary me.
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Old 23-02-2013, 06:40 AM   #392 (permalink)
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I'm loving the fact one of the blokes (I assume they're a dude) earlier in the thread talking about Christian values in society is called Lord of Darkness.
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Old 23-02-2013, 06:43 AM   #393 (permalink)
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Old 23-02-2013, 06:45 AM   #394 (permalink)
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I'm loving the fact one of the blokes (I assume they're a dude) earlier in the thread talking about Christian values in society is called Lord of Darkness.
He was always a very affable chap, and struck me as being very tolerant tbh. I must say, I'm surprised about the content of his posts.

Not surprised about Hingston's though, always knew he was a ****.
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Old 24-02-2013, 02:49 PM   #395 (permalink)
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It's definitely a generational thing - more under 30's in Alabama support gay marriage than over 70 in Massachusetts. Its crazy how different it is by age.

In no state is the support for gay marriage higher than 35% for people 65+. In no state is it lower than that for people under 30. In 38/50 states, gay marriage has over 50% support from under 30s. For ages 30-44, only 11/50 have 50% support. For ages 45-65, it's only 1/50. For 65+, it's 0/50.....

I have NEVER seen anything remotely like this by age.


-http://news.columbia.edu/research/1639

But that's not the only thing, as you say. Over the past ten years, so many people have simply flat out changed their mind. That doesn't happen often.
That graph is incredible.
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Old 24-02-2013, 03:24 PM   #396 (permalink)
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Yea, I was surprised it was this different when I first saw it. As the conservative commentator George Will said recently, the opposition to gay marriage is literally dying.

And others have also said: Gronstal blocks amendment to reverse Iowa marriage equality - YouTube

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Old 25-02-2013, 03:58 PM   #397 (permalink)
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Because you're changing what marriage is defined as for EVERYONE not just for gay couples, so of course it has a (very) minor impact on marriages themselves and the history that goes with it.
What's it defined as? A 2-3 year union with the very real chance one person in the relationship will **** someone else? Well worth protecting


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Old 28-02-2013, 12:35 PM   #398 (permalink)
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Old 17-04-2013, 07:15 AM   #400 (permalink)
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Australia will eventualy pass it and then claim to be the first country to pass gay marriage in the southern hemisphere and steal it away from NZ, just like we did with Pharlap.

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Haha, true.

The reaction here is amazing.
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Kudos to NZ. A rugby nation, you see?

You can read that any way you like.

Nah, seriously, I think NZ was the first country to give women the vote too, wasn't it? This is inkeeping with her liberal traditions.
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Old 17-04-2013, 03:56 PM   #405 (permalink)
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Wow. Beats the hell out of Westminster.

Anyway well done Kiwis, not sure why they were debating a "bull", but otherwise a splendid step forward as one would expect from such a nation.

In 30 years' time people will be embarrassed and ashamed at ever having opposed this.
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