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You can't use that extremely rare circumstance, and roll it out as a justification for abortion in general. If there is any argument for abortion - which is undeniably a termination of a life - then I think Bill Clinton puts it best when he says that abortion should be legal, but very discreet, and very rare.
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Clinton gets it spot on again (though this time said spot isnt on interns dress... least he didnt get her pregnant though!)
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Pro-choice. It does sound disgusting killing someone, but I think it should be up to the woman whether a baby survives or not. Like it or not, not all contraceptions are 100% perfect, and you still may get drunk or something....
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Hmm, wonder how many threads there have been on this issue?
Enjoying the early posts with Murphy's use of emoticons.
Anyway, I'm sure everyone will be shocked to learn that I'm unreservedly pro-choice.
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I think there's a lot of heat in the debate though.
Most people are either red hot for it, or red hot against.
I'm sort of someone who is quietly anti-abortion generally but funnily enough am liberal on other social issues such as censorship, gay marriage.
I think in my own mind that's because it's just such a personal issue. And frankly, who am I to tell a woman what she can and can't do? Then again, who am I to tell someone they're wrong if the very idea of it repulses them?
Yeah, I think my position on abortion is not entirely internally consistent. I very much have a general anti position, but I can see certain circumstances where I would relent. I'd certainly never raise it at the water cooler though, or have a go at a chick who had one. The problem with debating it is that people tend to be either at one end of the spectrum or the polar opposite. And there's nothing wrong with that, except when those positions are women's rights v human life respectively, it can make for a very shall I say robust and not always civil exchange.
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As for rape, well I think it should be considered there and if the woman is sure she doesn't want the child she should be allowed to abort, it's a tragic circumstance but it would have to be done.
If rape was the only criteria for having an abortion, wouldn't all females just claim rape to get the abortion?
Just a thought.
I really dont like abortion. I dont think I could ever have a child of mine terminated and I find the whole concept and idea rather unseemly, however and this is the big HOWEVER I am pro-choice and I will happily defend peoples right to choose.
Growing up, most of my friends have either had an abortion or their girlfriends had an abortion. It was something I thankfully avoided but I do not judge them or even give it a second thought. Just because I live my life one way doesnt mean I want it applied to the rest of the population. We all live our own life and have to sleep soundly in our own beds at night.
I am deeply offended, for example, by minors taken for abortions by teachers without their parents consent or without them ever being informed in the UK but, again, that is a secondary issue to abortion itself.
I dont like abortion, it is something I have avoided, it is something I doubt I could go through with but that is my choice and others may choose differently. I will defend that right to choose.
I hope people think long and hard about their decisions but of course some will not. That is the currency you have to pay to have that level of freedom.
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That is a horrible justification and a complete breakdown of the parent/child relationship. Parents are responsible for their children and to have teachers and the State take that away from them is ****ing ****ing sickening.
Parents have the right to know what is happening to their children. They are their children. They are responsible for bringing them up within the law.
I am thankful that I dont live in a country where the rights of a parent are so easily cast aside and the State isnt so overbearing. It is a rights issue.
The fact that it is almost accepted in the UK shows how out of sync the Brits are with most other places in terms of nanny state and interference in peoples life. This is something that people from other places dont believe happens.
Anyway, I dont want to get bogged down by this as it makes me angry. The issue is abortion itself.
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