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    Quote Originally Posted by StephenZA View Post
    The only response is economics. As long as there is insufficient jobs in SA for the growing under-skilled, younger job seekers then you will continue to see the problems in SA; including this continuous violence and anger. Because when some people feel they have nothing to lose they will behave have as if they have nothing to lose. And as always politicians will give them anybody else to blame but the politicians themselves. Pretty much the same as everywhere just countries like SA struggle to cope with all our already numerous problems.
    SA is also seen as the economic hub of Southern Africa (because it is) which means that lots of foreigners make the move seeking a better life.

    It's kind of like an extreme version of the US/Mexico situation.

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    Interesting obituary on Robert Mugabe

    https://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/ope...x6m/index.html
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    Some more commentary on Mugabe's legacy in health care

    Zimbabwean doctors note the symbolism of Mugabe seeking treatment 8,000 kilometres (5,000 miles) from home in Singapore's gleaming Gleneagles clinic, where the cheapest suite costs around US$850 (770 euros) a day.

    "It is very symbolic that the former president who presided over all the system for three decades can't trust the health system," said Edgar Munatsi, a doctor at Chitungwiza, 30 kms (18 miles) from the capital Harare.

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    Is it me or was the judge in this case a little high


    The High Court decision on Friday indicated that Rastafarianism is a religion just like any other and ought to be respected. While giving his final verdict in a suit in which a father of a girl who was sent away from Olympic High School in Nairobi soon after being admitted in Form One, Justice Enoch Chacha Mwita said that the school administration’s action denied the girl her right to religion and education.

    The judge also pointed out that the Constitution does not define what religion is but the dictionary does.

    Also, kenya is trialling a new Malaria vaccine

    Kenya on Friday added the world’s first malaria vaccine to the routine immunisation schedule for children under two, becoming the third country in Africa to roll out the vaccine for the disease that kills one child globally every two minutes.


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    Quote Originally Posted by andruid View Post
    Is it me or was the judge in this case a little high
    Why? Having dreadlocks should not bar you from school for any reason. Rastafarianism has been considered a religion before, but that is neither here nor there, they did not suspend her for her religion, they suspended her for having dreadlocks. Who the hell cares.

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    Also, kenya is trialling a new Malaria vaccine
    Saw this. Always good news.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StephenZA View Post
    Pretty scary stuff if this is the way people relate immigration to their lack of opportunities? Also is the Vusimusi Sibanda mentioned in he article the same one who used to open for Zimbabwe all those years ago? If it is then he has really done well for himself since his playing days.

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    Tanzania's president is really quite bonkers

    Tanzanian President John Magufuli has praised a senior government official for caning a group of secondary school students who were accused of setting fire to their dormitories.

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    Russia now wooing African countries with 'goodies'

    Mr Putin offered what he called a vision for cooperation with Africa as some 3,000 delegates continued arriving at Sochi resort city. At least 35 African heads of state and government have confirmed attending.

    Eritrea not exactly over the moon about Ethiopia's Abiy Ahmed Nobel Peace Prize

    Eritrean President Isaias Afeworki was acknowledged for accepting Abiy's peace offer in the Norwegian Nobel Committee's announcement, which held out hope of "positive change" in both countries. But he was not given a share of the prize and has made no public statement on the award.
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    So SA’s biggest opposition party the DA has decided to commit hara-kiri this last week. Which pretty much gives absolute freedom to the ANC; and provides a nice big boost for the EFF, the far left nationalist party within SA.

    I don’t see how SA political or economic situation could get worse at the moment unless the country decided that a civil war was a good idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StephenZA View Post
    So SA’s biggest opposition party the DA has decided to commit hara-kiri this last week. Which pretty much gives absolute freedom to the ANC; and provides a nice big boost for the EFF, the far left nationalist party within SA.

    I don’t see how SA political or economic situation could get worse at the moment unless the country decided that a civil war was a good idea.
    This whole DA thing is so bizarre.

    I wouldn't have been surprised to see the mass exodus after the elections, but it's just so weird that this happens now.

    The Joburg mayor-ship is also going to be interesting to follow now, as the EFF may pull out of the coalition deal with the DA. ANC has already said it is negotiating in this regard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrPrez View Post
    This whole DA thing is so bizarre.

    I wouldn't have been surprised to see the mass exodus after the elections, but it's just so weird that this happens now.

    The Joburg mayor-ship is also going to be interesting to follow now, as the EFF may pull out of the coalition deal with the DA. ANC has already said it is negotiating in this regard.
    Good article by Adriaan Basson
    https://www.news24.com/Columnists/Ad...he-da-20191024

    But ultimately it is perfectly understandable if you look through an ideological and power lens. DA old stalwarts did not like the greater inclusiveness and ideological changes within the party that made it more palatable for the country at large. See Tories and Labour in Eng. GoP in America. The difference is that SA can not afford that sort of ideological bigotry because the social and economic problems are far beyond that crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StephenZA View Post
    Good article by Adriaan Basson
    https://www.news24.com/Columnists/Ad...he-da-20191024

    But ultimately it is perfectly understandable if you look through an ideological and power lens. DA old stalwarts did not like the greater inclusiveness and ideological changes within the party that made it more palatable for the country at large. See Tories and Labour in Eng. GoP in America. The difference is that SA can not afford that sort of ideological bigotry because the social and economic problems are far beyond that crap.
    Really insightful read. Does this take the pressure off ANC to deal with unemployment and inequality or will it just give room fr the EFF to be a more challenging opposition than the DA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StephenZA View Post
    Good article by Adriaan Basson
    https://www.news24.com/Columnists/Ad...he-da-20191024

    But ultimately it is perfectly understandable if you look through an ideological and power lens. DA old stalwarts did not like the greater inclusiveness and ideological changes within the party that made it more palatable for the country at large. See Tories and Labour in Eng. GoP in America. The difference is that SA can not afford that sort of ideological bigotry because the social and economic problems are far beyond that crap.
    Yeah, fair enough, I meant more bizarre as in the timing rather than the actual fallout. I expected more fallout just after the elections, particularly given said tension in the party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrPrez View Post
    Yeah, fair enough, I meant more bizarre as in the timing rather than the actual fallout. I expected more fallout just after the elections, particularly given said tension in the party.
    They did poorly in the election not because of anything Maimane did wrong other than try make the party more palatable to the entire country, it was the infighting prior over these exact attitude from the more conservative members and problems within the party that caused people to lose faith. His resignation and removal, is pure politics within the party and the poor election showing was used as an excuse. This whole episode is not unlike what happened with Zuma but for totally different reasons.

    Quote Originally Posted by andruid View Post
    Really insightful read. Does this take the pressure off ANC to deal with unemployment and inequality or will it just give room fr the EFF to be a more challenging opposition than the DA.
    Yes and No. The problems are real and the population of SA will not allow this to continue for long one way or another. However the problems within the ANC has nothing to do with their plans, ambitions or manifesto to sort these problems out. It is purely the corruption (and thus will), the incompetence and disregard for the people of SA in general. So the loss of the DA as a real political power allows that corruption and incompetence to continue; this combined with no real opposition provides no alternative for the public to get behind. With the EFF around, this is likely to drag the whole country further left into a corrupt socialist state long term; Unless a left leaning but central party comes along soon SA's problems are only going to be compounded ten fold.

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