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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-47710945

    The Algeria situation continuing to escalate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by andmark View Post
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-47710945

    The Algeria situation continuing to escalate.
    Is that Ian chappell in Algeria?
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    "The presence of those seeking the truth is infinitely to be preferred to the presence of those who think theyve found it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by StephenZA View Post
    It certainly puts the issues we have in South Africa into perspective.

    For all the government incompetence, we're still safe and devoid of war and politically-motivated violence.


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    In other news, thoughts on the ZACP? https://capitalist.org.za/

    While I'm pro-liberty etc, they seem to me to be nothing more than a bunch of opinionated people with too much time on their hands.

    All they seem to want to do is get seats in parliament so they get a platform to talk. No actual action.

    Also, their website is horrible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrPrez View Post
    It certainly puts the issues we have in South Africa into perspective.

    For all the government incompetence, we're still safe and devoid of war and politically-motivated violence.
    I`m not so sure about that one.... internal ANC fighting (and other parties) within KZN and places like Mpumalanga are pretty intense and serious. But yeah at least we do not have war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StephenZA View Post
    I`m not so sure about that one.... internal ANC fighting (and other parties) within KZN and places like Mpumalanga are pretty intense and serious. But yeah at least we do not have war.
    Yeah fair enough - I'm more referring to violence on a larger scale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrPrez View Post
    In other news, thoughts on the ZACP? https://capitalist.org.za/

    While I'm pro-liberty etc, they seem to me to be nothing more than a bunch of opinionated people with too much time on their hands.

    All they seem to want to do is get seats in parliament so they get a platform to talk. No actual action.

    Also, their website is horrible.
    No... just no. I'm sick of ideology.

    All I would like to see is some basic governance. Lets get rid of the corruption, keep the lights on, fix the potholes, get the text books to the schools; And as a bigger long term goal try to tackle the inequality. That is do basic governance despite ideological opinions. But basic governance is far more difficult to achieve, than sprouting one-liners, of one solution fixes all problems bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StephenZA View Post
    No... just no. I'm sick of ideology.

    All I would like to see is some basic governance. Lets get rid of the corruption, keep the lights on, fix the potholes, get the text books to the schools; And as a bigger long term goal try to tackle the inequality. That is do basic governance despite ideological opinions. But basic governance is far more difficult to achieve, than sprouting one-liners, of one solution fixes all problems bullshit.
    Exactly. I'm all for a genuine classic liberal party, but there's no point if you have no intention of actually running for an office that gets control of anything.

    They've explicitly stated that they have no desire to actually run for local or national office; only to get a few people into parliament to put their views out there.

    Seems pretty pretentious to me.

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    Two interesting opnion articles on the upcoming elections.
    news24_Columnists/AdriaanBasson/battleground-gauteng-will-push-anc-above-or-below


    news24_/Columnists/HowardFeldman/ill-vote-for-hope-if-you-ask-me-to

    The 2nd one truly resonants with me....

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    Quote Originally Posted by StephenZA View Post
    That second one is so true. It's the reason the EFF has come up - as nuts as they are, they're promising a hopeful future to those who would benefit their radical socialist policies. Which is why they're getting the votes.

    ANC also tends to run on "We got you out of apartheid, and now we're going to continue to move things forward."

    They're both awful but they're both clearly doing something right with their marketing if you look at the polls; the DA is doing the opposite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrPrez View Post
    They're both awful but they're both clearly doing something right with their marketing if you look at the polls; the DA is doing the opposite.
    The DA is still trotting out the line "Stop the ANC" (which sometimes includes the EFF as well), and that's not a particularly compelling reason to vote for them. Admittedly, I have started to see posters here in Cape Town promising things like a railway system that works and better policing, but that's what they should have gone with in the first place rather than the anti-ANC rhetoric.

    I also think they should have done more damage control around mishandling of both the water crisis and Patricia de Lille. as I don't think anybody knows just what the fallout is going to be. It almost seems like they're thinking that what happened at a municipal level doesn't matter all that much because these are provincial and national elections, but if that's the case then they've been horribly misguided as the average voter isn't going to draw too much of a distinction between the different levels of government - what the DA has done while running Cape Town will have an impact.
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    A little more insight on the Ethiopia Airlines crash. Apparently there are clear similarities between what happend there and the last 737 Max crash in Indonesia. Also, Burundi continue ban on VOA and BBC, but eho's gonna stop Burundians tuning in via short wave radio.

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    https://www.businessinsider.com/nige...19-4?r=US&IR=T

    Audu Ogbeh has claimed rich Nigerians are ordering pizza from London and having it flown over via British Airways, whereupon they pick it up at the airport.
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